Its like your arguments are any better.
"Tools that kill people are great whoo!"
And dont bullstuff me about self defense because you dont need to defend yourself from guns if people dont have guns in the first place
i don't think you're seeing what i'm arguing here and that may be my fault, so i'll lay it out clearly:
1. making guns illegal will do harm, not good
1.1 the war on drugs can be a useful example of what making something illegal can do.
1.1.1 making drugs illegal made it harder for people to get help
1.1.2 it stopped legal, ethical production and gave all the money to vicious, murderous cartels
1.1.3 drugs are more common than ever
1.1.4 drugs are now more unsafe than before, due to no oversight on what is put in them
1.2 making guns illegal will only stop people who want to use them legally; if someone wants a gun so badly they will get it, whether or not it is legal.
2. guns can be used correctly and safely
2.1 there are many sport-shooting and hunting applications of guns, such as:
2.1.1 game hunting
2.1.2 curbing invasive species such as wild boar
2.1.3 defending rural homes from wildlife such as mountain lions
2.1.4 target shooting and gun clubs
3. self-defense with guns is indeed not very useful
3.1 indeed, having a gun isn't super useful if you are being mugged; just let them take you money, not worth the risk
3.2 if someone is coming at you with a knife, it is impossible to draw a gun and fire if they are closer than 21 feet(around that, i think i watched a mythbusters episode about this)
3.3 i can, however, see how it could be useful in home-defense type situations
