Steam increased their trading/market item hold time to 15 days

[Lord Tony®]

It makes no sense. Price changes in the steam market change all the time.

So you see an item selling for 1 dollar. So you put your item out for 1 dollar.

The problem is you  have to wait 15 days until your item can be sold. By the time 15 days are up your item is selling for 1 dollar and no one is buying it because the price of that item dropped down to 20 cents.

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[CRITAWAKETS]

Theres a problem with escrow. WHY DO YOU NEED THE WAIT. The hackers can simply take control of the account forever. And i doubt that you are going to cancel a trade because of a scam,you are going to think its okay.

I fear that theres a deeper reason to the mobile authenticator... Steam phone?

[Lord Tony®]

TI fear that theres a deeper reason to the mobile authenticator... Steam phone?

Well people were tricked into getting google+ with youtube.

[McJob]

Chances if you can hijack an account without them noticing because they don't log in anymore then 15 days won't make a difference.

If it takes Steam 7 days to initially respond to a support ticket, there's still 8 days before the scammer has successfully given away your inventory for you and Steam to resolve the problem (and I've heard both good and bad things about Valve restoring account access).

This isn't a deterrent designed to help those who aren't frequently using Steam (and I doubt people who aren't logging in are the ones with big inventories). It's a deterrent designed to help people actively trading/selling/buying who haven't taken precautions to prevent fraud.

By the time 15 days are up your item is selling for 1 dollar and no one is buying it because the price of that item dropped down to 20 cents.

Presumably this is an oversight, and Valve will hopefully update the interface to allow price modification in the future.

[Lord Tony®]

Presumably this is an oversight, and Valve will hopefully update the interface to allow price modification in the future.

I doubt it because that's terrible. Prices change instantly at any time in any moment.

When 15 days go by your price is irrelevant.

You won't be able to sell cards that expire like summer or winter cards because they will expire before you get them over to the market.

[McJob]

I fear that theres a deeper reason to the mobile authenticator... Steam phone?

You want me to let you in on the big secret? Okay, here I go...

IT'S FOR SECURITY YOU CUNT.

Here's the dealio. Activision-Blizzard and Square Enix have been using mobile authenticators (not phones, but physical dongle things you had to purchase) for a long time, and they've seen massive success in decreasing the amount of scams. Valve are obviously wanting to try and increase the security reputation and also reduce the amount of Steam Support account-related requests, and so they're trying to find convenient and cheap ways to help (stupid) users with this scammer issue.

I don't see you suggesting anything better that would actually work, so maybe just shut the forget up.

You won't be able to sell cards that expire like summer or winter cards because they will expire before you get them over to the market.

And yet I feel like Valve probably already have an internal solution for this problem.

[Lord Tony®]

IT'S FOR SECURITY YOU CUNT.

so maybe just shut the forget up.

What's with the flaming here?

[Private McDoggy]

I wonder

I don't have a problem with this at all

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What's with the flaming here?

LEGO ISLAND WASN'T VERY GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McJob]

What's with the flaming here?

I find it hard to believe someone can't see the exact reasons why Valve would push the app. Steam Support has a reputation for being stuff and any decent business support is going to want to improve that reputation by first trying to cut back on as much time-consuming work as possible so they can refocus and get that response time down.

Yeah, I swear. What of it? Tony, I've gotten mad at you and used even worse swears, so why is it an issue now?

[Lord Tony®]

Adding this level of security still won't prevent scams and it's still going to alienate honest users.

[McJob]

All I can say is "at least Valve is attempting to take action against a known problem." There's plenty of companies out there that have no issue allowing known security threats to continue because it's "too much work".

Is it the right solution? Maybe not. I still think that access to the mobile authenticator is easy (download an Android emulator or the Android desktop OS) and that if Valve is pushing as hard as they are to get users on to it, it's probably having a positive effect which in turn is making Valve more conscious about it.

[Lord Tony®]

Yeah, I swear. What of it? Tony, I've gotten mad at you and used even worse swears.

I want you to think about this for a second.

[espio100]

Valve should do absolutely nothing against scamming (Well maybe a little bit)
If those people are dumb enough to get scammed in the first place they should deserve it.

[Lord Tony®]

Email confirming was good enough.

Seriously it can take about 15 days for valve to respond to your support ticket of your account being hijacked. Most cases they just ban your account and you won't be able to recover stuff.