The Trolley Dilemma

[Planr]

train vs fall
who wins

depends on if the train has life alert

[Ad Bot]

[Taciturn]

Y'all are missing the point.

Would you rather be directly responsible for one death or indirectly responsible for many deaths?

The bridge is over a drop into the earth's mantle. The worker is wearing ear protection and cannot hear your warnings. One of them must die.

[Ninja Decoy]

Lets add another level to this dilemma.
Lets say the trolley has a load of criminals, but also has an equal amount of police officers keeping eye on them (for the sake of those who say "fuk the polic" the police officers are 100% innocent)
Now what is your choice?

[Otis Da HousKat]

Well really where the hell do you see a trolley car nowadays? All the examples I can think of are cities with a pretentious tech worker upper class elite. I say let them hurdle to their death. They need to remember that all the tech and money in the world won't make them invincible.

[Sitrus]

Why is the worker on the completed side of the track.
Get to work on the incomplete one.

[{L}]

If you do nothing a large group of people die. But if you do something, while you save a lot of lives, you choose to kill a person.

But if I do nothing when I have the opportunity to save them, that's essentially killing them.

So I'm being asked whether I want to kill one person or several?

[Juncoph]

depends

is the trolley full of an ethnic minority i'm trying to culturally assimilate?

[ShadowsfeaR]

Y'all are missing the point.

Would you rather be directly responsible for one death or indirectly responsible for many deaths?

The bridge is over a drop into the earth's mantle. The worker is wearing ear protection and cannot hear your warnings. One of them must die.

You see this is the thing. Inaction means you are responsible for not saving many vs killing one. If you knew you could save all the people on the trolley but chose not to, you are responsible for their deaths; instead you choose to save one person, just so you would not be directly responsible for one death. Choosing to kill one person, you will have acted to save many for the sake of one. Does that one man have a family? Children who look up to them? A whole life just gone at your hands? Yes, and you will have to bear this burden, but at the expense of saving more lives. Life is full of heavy choices and it will never play out fair. Your job is to play the game and play it as well as you can.

[sir dooble]

But if I do nothing when I have the opportunity to save them, that's essentially killing them.

So I'm being asked whether I want to kill one person or several?

That's the predicament. Is not acting the same as acting? Are your morally obliged to act? Or is not acting just a case of being an outside, uninvolved observer?

[Siren]

Agreed, I also wouldn't blame someone in the situation if one of my family died.

Lets add another level to this dilemma.
Lets say the trolley has a load of criminals, but also has an equal amount of police officers keeping eye on them (for the sake of those who say "fuk the polic" the police officers are 100% innocent)
Now what is your choice?

You are still saving more than 1 police officer over 1 worker, plus criminals have the chance to rehabilitate, which is an argument for another day. I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone would think allowing the trolley to crash isn't their fault.



Also if you are looking for more of this stuff, BBC's Horizon done a large portion of this kind of stuff on the episode "Are You Good or Evil?". I think it's that one anyway, but It was interesting

[Gytyyhgfffff]

wait wouldn't the worker die either way
how would pulling a lever kill the worker unless the worker is already in the path of the trolley
the trolley would run over him even if you didn't pull the lever

on topic: the people in the trolley
saving like 30 people and killing one is better than saving one and killing 30

[Siren]

wait wouldn't the worker die either way
how would pulling a lever kill the worker unless the worker is already in the path of the trolley
the trolley would run over him even if you didn't pull the lever

on topic: the people in the trolley
saving like 30 people and killing one is better than saving one and killing 30

[Katadeus]

yea I'd let them run the worker over. Afterwards I'd notify their family and then let them forget me up if they want to.
then I would feel ok

[The Resonte!]

i have a super dilemma

say that YOU are the worker... would you blame someone for pulling the lever?

[Gytyyhgfffff]

[imghttp://www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/trolley+problem1.jpg[/img]

that makes more sense
it also reminds me of utilitarianism