Bible Prophecy Overview

[Tayasaurus]

If god created Adam and Eve and they repopulated that way then we are all loving related. Not only that we would all be handicaps by now caused by incest for over 100,000 years.

The defects of incest would be considered part of the "fall" after the eating of the fruit in a Christian perspective. Of all the people in this thread you are the least qualified to be making points in this thread.

Pretty sure those would go to hell too. They never got a chance to believe in god, and since that's a requirement to be saved... RIP.

That's not how that works either.

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[Ipquarx]

That's not how that works either.

How does it work then? (Genuine question by the way, I've always heard conflicting reports on this.)

[Fred Fuckstone]

The Fermi Paradox

[Tayasaurus]

How does it work then?

Biblically it's not explicitly stated whether or not unborn children go to heaven and its a mystery to many sects of Christianity. The only thing that we can do is hypothesize on God's character towards children and reach a conclusion. Many Baptists believe that children are without sin until reaching a certain age.

http://www.gty.org/resources/questions/QA101/do-babies-and-others-incapable-of-professing-faith-in-christ-automatically-go-to-heaven

Grace to you is a very handy resource on some of the tougher questions and you might find that to be an interesting read as well.

[Kamutog]

From my own perspective, God knows the future and the end of time. He would've known where the person would've gone if they instead died of old age.

[Zloff]

According to a lot of people, christians are required to fear god, let alone the fear that you may not have done enough/forgiven hard enough to get into heaven.

Catholic garbage

Seriously, hovering the idea of eternal suffering and pain over a childs head to make them behave (Whether you truly believe it or not) can seriously forget them up.

mhm I agree

Keep in mind though, all it really takes to be saved is declaring & believing Jesus to be the Son of God and the Savior. Through His sacrifice, one can find freedom from bondage of sin and freedom from fear of condemnation.

if a kid doesn't believe that, either A) Christianity isn't their religion, or B) they were taught wrong (lied to, Catholicism, etc)

[Lord Tony®]

Okay dude like

you do realize the most mainstream and secular of science says there were very few humans we all evolved from right?

I'm sure it was more than two.

Even animals like the hyena don't allow incest unless they had absolutely no other alternative.

[Kamutog]

I'm sure it was more than two.

Even animals like the hyena don't allow incest unless they had absolutely no other alternative.

So you're saying "my opinion > study".

[Lord Tony®]

So you're saying "my opinion > study".

Animals instinctively not practicing incest is a fact.

What study has there been done to Adam and Eve to make it plausible?

[Tezuni 2.0]

everyone gets raptured while that one dude we sent to mars is still hopping around lol

those tribal people in the amazon rain forest that have never even seen a white man let alone heard of christianity, and God is all like well that's too bad, gotta throw you in a burning lake of fire sorry bro

that time when God told ezekial ok man sorry about this but you needs to lie down on your left side for 390 days, then your right side for 40 days.

TFW Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin and threw it at Moses' feet so God wouldn't kill him. WTF mom?!

some things i wanted to add:

that time God turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt

that time God killed 40 kids with two bears

that time God killed a bunch of firstborn Egyptian babies

that time God killed a guy for having too strong a pullout game

that time God wrestled a dude all night and the bro wouldn't give up so God displaced his hip then blessed him

that time God made a bet with Satan about Job and let him kill the dude's family and torture him

[Dodger]

I'm sure it was more than two.

Even animals like the hyena don't allow incest unless they had absolutely no other alternative.

The entry point between proto-human and human species would still be extremely narrow, it would have to come from an individual who could both acquire genetics to only be able to produce fertile offspring and also actually find an opportunity for reproduction (I doubt you'll just find 20 modern humans appear at the same time down the evolutionary line). The actual process of speciation is pretty fascinating, and I think it's only been observed in plants since the process is very incidental and usually happens over a long time.

Anyways, defending the belief side, I think there might have been design choices to prevent incest from being a problem in early generations

[Darryl McKoy]

Anyways, defending the belief side, I think there might have been design choices to prevent incest from being a problem in early generations

Sounds about as plausible as everything else in the bible so hey, why not.

[Dodger]

Sounds about as plausible as everything else in the bible so hey, why not.

I'm pretty sure there were Jews born in Israel ;)

[Ipquarx]

In the beginning yes, there would have had to be incest. However given a clear effort over a relatively short time the population would grow so large that it wouldn't any longer be detrimental to the gene pool and natural selection could start to weed off the ones that were unfit, leading to the mostly genetically A-OK humans we have today.
For example, assuming Adam and Eve had plenty of children (Like 10 children) and then each pair (5 pairs) had another 10 kids (eugh), there's now 50 new people. Then 250. Then 1,250. Then 6,250. You get the picture.

So no, that's not a valid argument against Christianity. (There are of course other ones for this particular flavour of creation story that I won't get into.)

Anyways, defending the belief side, I think there might have been design choices to prevent incest from being a problem in early generations

If you have only two people on earth, and they have babies, in order to make new babies those children would either have to either procreate with their parents or eachother. The fact that there was incest is an unfortunately unsolvable fact. It's gross as hell but it wouldn't cause an early end to the human race.

[Clownfish]

remember guys, tony's opinion is not bait at all and is not trying to stir up anything in any way