Love the guys who are like 'forget MAINSTREAM stuffHOP IT SUCKS THEY ALL SUCK UNDERGROUND HIP HOP IS BETTER' and then you listen to their underground stuff and realize its just a bunch of boring poems about how life is suffering and how you need to open up your fourth eye or some stuff
the best part is when you ask if they produce their own beats
"i use instrumentals off youtube"
i have 2 close friends who were into making rap music (and yes, they're black). Bro A quit before he got into the mixtape phase, then in the spring joined a hardcore metal band as the lead vocalist/songwriter and is getting gigs all across the state (what a turn of events lol). Bro B on the other hand is currently grinding out a second mixtape. that should speak for itself, but to make things worse he got Bro A to feature on one of his songs for the hell of it - despite A not rapping for 2 or 3 years - and A blew him tfo in terms of lyricism and verbal skill. and ON TOP of THAT, Bro A is being taught how to play the drums and getting p decent at them, while Bro B doesn't play any instrument or even plan on learning how to produce his own beats. not any time soon, at least
tl;dr soundcloud rappers are a lost cause