Are any people in America actually oppressed?

[Willymcmilly]

the whole minority quota thing seems kind of "tribal" in itself

its like using minorities as a fashion accessory or something to make your company look good like wearing a nice pair of earrings

maybe i'm overthinking it but like if you want a good staff you should hire based on qualifications and skill instead of race?

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[Perry]

After telling the police he had a gun in his pocket he was told not to move his hands. He did not listen and reached to his side to grab his ID.

Actually, he was told not to move his hands, which were already at his side, and naturally, since there's an officer who's armed and can possibly kill you at a moments notice, he raised his hand to show that he had nothing on him. Keep in mind that the relationship between black citizens and police isn't just black and white. If you're being pulled over and told not to move your hands, you're going to feel threatened. Putting your hands up is a sign of peace and innocence, not a sign of guilt or danger or a threat. The police officer overreacted and is entirely responsible for what happened.

its like using minorities as a fashion accessory or something to make your company look good like wearing a nice pair of earrings

I don't think you understand what workplace diversity is. Businesses don't have a quota because they're forced against their will to have it. They have it because diversity improves work productivity and has several benefits for the workers themselves. It's called an inclusive space, and surprise surprise, it makes everything better.

[Steve5451²]

Actually, he was told not to move his hands, which were already at his side, and naturally, since there's an officer who's armed and can possibly kill you at a moments notice, he raised his hand to show that he had nothing on him.

the information on the incident says otherwise, including his girlfriend in the vehicle with him.
you seem to have the impression that the cop approached him with his gun drawn.

What happened is not okay but you're making a race issue out of a police issue.

[Perry]

the information on the incident says otherwise, including his girlfriend in the vehicle with him.
you seem to have the impression that the cop approached him with his gun drawn.

The cop drew the gun after he raised his hands, i know this already. The fact is that a) the person killed wasn't committing a crime. b) the police officer had no reason to react in the way he did. if you're legally allowed to own a gun, you shouldn't be forced to restrict your movement out of fear of being shot. you legally have a possession that you payed for, and its clearly concealed and not an active threat. c) the officer exercised lethal force where it wasn't required.

It also is a race issue. There's a social stigma that black people are criminals, deceptive, whatever you can call it. there have been advanced psychological studies for years that prove that people, including black people themselves, feel threatened by the presence of another black person. This is due to the 200 years of stigma that have shown that black people are savages, criminals etc. This is entirely race based, and as many people have predicted, if Philando Castille was white he probably would've survived the encounter. In fact, he may have not even been in the situation that required him to be pulled over.

Police shootings are a huge pain to society in general. Not only does the person shot lose their life, but their family loses a family member, the police officer probably gets PTSD from the encounter, the image of cops becomes worse, and as a result cops begin to fear for their life and therefore are provoked easier in further encounters. If cops were informed to restrict their use of lethal force, incidents like the one with Castille probably would never happen in the first place. It's an issue on several fronts and it is considered oppression, and should be solved as soon as possible if we want to live in safe communities.

[Red Spy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEhUP4097JM
blacks are oppressed xd

[Headcrab Zombie]

Not being able to discuss your gay love life publicly really doesn't count as oppression to me.

It's not about "talking about your love life" because people don't want to hear straight couples talk about their love life either.
It's about things like kids to not have to hide their loveuality from their parents in order to avoid being thrown out on the streets

Now, granted, this isn't really full scale oppression, it's just a small number of parents stuck in their ways. But you can't say it's "not that big of a problem" that 40% of homeless youth are LGBT

Marriage is just a social construct so to say that altering that social construct so that more people can get married is (((progress))) is pretty silly.

Marriage isn't "just" a social construct when the government and certain business (e.g. health insurance companies) give benefits to married couples that those who can't get married can't get access to.
Of course same-love marriage is legal nationwide now so arguing it doesn't really matter

Additionally I never really understood why transloveual people can't just be treated for anxiety/depression rather than getting a love change

I don't get how you say this, but then you say "we should treat the cause rather then the symptoms" re: minorities in the workplace

black people tend to be poorer and less educated

See this is the kind of stuff I was taking about in my previous post.
Sure,  this isn't oppression, but again, you can't say "it's not that big of a problem"

[Tactical Nuke]

Give me three different classes of oppressed people and verifiably, beyond-any-doubt confirmable ways in which these people are oppressed and I'll renounce everything I've ever said and join the "Annoying Orange is Riddler" bandwagon.

SPOILERS: It won't happen.

[MoltenKitten]

No one in America is oppressed, I have yet see an example of the opposite

[IkeTheGeneric]

I'm sure there's oppression of minority classes here and there. Not as prevalent these days. It's probably worse for black people than anyone else.

[Perry]

SPOILERS: It won't happen.

I'll accept that challenge.

Native Americans - Have been forcibly removed from their lands, conquered, murdered, and raped for over 500 years. In today's society, the only oppression that they face is the intrusion of business and government on their specified lands. All native Reservations are under their own laws and are governed independent of the United States government, yet companies are allowed to construct pipelines on their land that they own. This is unconstitutional on every level, as private companies don't have the right to construct things on your property unless you give them the right or the government has a warranty. The natives are being oppressed in the sense that they are losing the right to their land that they legally own and govern.

Illegal Immigrants - although they moved to the united states illegally, they are still human beings, and can still be oppressed. There have been intensive reports on businesses hiring illegal immigrants cheaply and extorting them under the condition that they may be deported if they are revealed.

African Americans - self explanatory. Today, oppression isn't as bad as it was before but there's still a huge segregation of school systems. Since african americans are statistically poor due to the lasting effects of slavery, segregation etc. they are often forced to attend zone schools, which like their neighborhoods, are poorly maintained, underfunded, and generally stuffty. As they grow up, their teachers make no attempt to help them, much of the schools problems go unsolved and in general a large portion of black teens grow up thinking that they are bad students and have no future. The teachers treat them like such, and as a result the mentality grows and affects other students, resulting in increased crime rates, poorer grades, violence, etc. States make little to no effort to fund these schools, and rarely document the actual states of their schools.



You're probably going to say something along the lines of "well thats not oppression!" and i'm just going to preemptively call you an idiot just so i can quote it before you say it. You're also probably going to say "well its their fault!!!" or something along those lines and to that i'm going to refute it with the concept of white guilt.

[McZealot]

I wouldn't call anyone in America 'oppressed' as that's a very strong term. I'd say there is a lot of systematic discrimination against certain groups, however, and that's frankly undeniable.

This has been debunked and dis-proven so many times, I'm surprised people STILL believe in the wage gap, lmao

The wage gape is certainly real, but not even close to widespread and massively exaggerated. It's impossible to deny some business are loveist or prefer men and since just a handful of example can prove a claim like that wrong, I'd recommend you say something more along the lines of 'The 77% figure is a gross exaggeration.'

My mother worked at a lawfirm that actually paid the top-paid female less than the lowest-paid male. They weren't allowed to disclose their salaries, and I guess the firm just thought that women would settle for lower pay. My mom discovered with doing some accounting work for them and later quit.

77% to the dollar is ridiculously misleading. It's gained by adding the full salaries of all men and all women, when in truth women (statistically) aren't as ambitious in their careers, take more vacation time, tend to work less-demanding hours, and of course, get pregnant. This also causes many of them to leave the workplace for a number of years to raise children, so the false-gap grows. Men and women doing the same amount of work in the same place usually have a 3-4% divide, and I think that's because women tend to settle for a bit less.

So, yes, it is real. No, it's not as bad as they say.

[Buzzwaker!]

I'll accept that challenge.

Native Americans - Have been forcibly removed from their lands, conquered, murdered, and raped for over 500 years. In today's society, the only oppression that they face is the intrusion of business and government on their specified lands. All native Reservations are under their own laws and are governed independent of the United States government, yet companies are allowed to construct pipelines on their land that they own. This is unconstitutional on every level, as private companies don't have the right to construct things on your property unless you give them the right or the government has a warranty. The natives are being oppressed in the sense that they are losing the right to their land that they legally own and govern.

Illegal Immigrants - although they moved to the united states illegally, they are still human beings, and can still be oppressed. There have been intensive reports on businesses hiring illegal immigrants cheaply and extorting them under the condition that they may be deported if they are revealed.

African Americans - self explanatory. Today, oppression isn't as bad as it was before but there's still a huge segregation of school systems. Since african americans are statistically poor due to the lasting effects of slavery, segregation etc. they are often forced to attend zone schools, which like their neighborhoods, are poorly maintained, underfunded, and generally stuffty. As they grow up, their teachers make no attempt to help them, much of the schools problems go unsolved and in general a large portion of black teens grow up thinking that they are bad students and have no future. The teachers treat them like such, and as a result the mentality grows and affects other students, resulting in increased crime rates, poorer grades, violence, etc. States make little to no effort to fund these schools, and rarely document the actual states of their schools.

this p is the world status rn, not just the US, the worst country for it all is jamaica, you get shot if you're white and not in a tourist area. And you can get shot for crashing into someones car due to no insurance policys. And theres no form of financial benefits where you can sign on for money from the government, they don't give a stuff about you so you have to hustle. 99% of the time what you're doing to make money there is illegal. its a tough world.

[Red Spy]

this p is the world status rn,

What

[Perry]

its a tough world.

Every country has crime in it, right? Whats the solution to crime? More arrests? More rehabilitation? Better programs for the poor?

No. The answer is nothing. Every country has crime rates in it, and nothing can be done. So lets stop arresting criminals. After all, its a tough world. The best thing we can do is make the world tougher for everyone, am I right?

[Buzzwaker!]

What

this is pretty much the world's status right now. translation if you didn't understand