Author Topic: Annoying Orange has signed S.J. Res 34 (Read 4712 times)

SeventhSandwich · April 04, 2017, 06:03:16 PM

Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 04, 2017, 06:00:25 PM

And yet that hasn't happened here despite US companies not being allowed to compete.

Again, yet. I don't even understand why you're opposed to the idea of putting safeguards against this kind of bullstuff. The only argument you have given so far is that it 'probably won't be that bad', but we're in complete power to prevent it from being bad at all.

It's like someone is trying to tell you that you're about to get hit in the head with a baseball, and you're too lazy to move even a foot to the side.

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beachbum111111 · April 04, 2017, 06:04:55 PM

Quote from: Daswiruch on April 04, 2017, 06:02:09 PM

in my podunk town our internet service is controlled by one company that gives stuff rates and high prices
i get a max of 150 kilobytes/s download speed and i rarely reach that. usually it's 50 kilobytes/s

Yeah in smaller towns that tends to happen since the network infrastructure isn't there/is very poor. Cities will always get the best internet.

Quote from: SeventhSandwich on April 04, 2017, 06:03:16 PM

Again, yet. I don't even understand why you're opposed to the idea of putting safeguards against this kind of bullstuff. The only argument you have given so far is that it 'probably won't be that bad', but we're in complete power to prevent it from being bad at all.

I'm not against safeguards like this, I just find the people blowing this stuff out of proportion to be annoying.

Frequency · April 04, 2017, 06:05:15 PM

Quote from: Pecon on April 04, 2017, 05:49:50 PM

Anything that isn't encrypted can be collected and sold by your ISP. Steam, for example, uses no encryption whatsoever. Your login information, chat history, and all your account activity that isn't handled through one of steam's web api's (because their website is https). So in reality,
They already have this information.

You're naive if you think that the majority of your communications are encrypted.

so an isp can only see that you connected to a https site but not your activity, but they could see your activity if it were just http?

SeventhSandwich · April 04, 2017, 06:06:22 PM

Quote from: beachbum111111 on April 04, 2017, 06:04:55 PM

I'm not against safeguards like this, I just find the people blowing this stuff out of proportion to be annoying.

So you can at least admit that this is a stuffty bill - while the magnitude of the stufftyness isn't completely certain?

Pecon · April 04, 2017, 06:16:09 PM

Quote from: Frequency on April 04, 2017, 06:05:15 PM

so an isp can only see that you connected to a https site but not your activity, but they could see your activity if it were just http?

Correct. Http sends data in plain text form.

e-maxx · April 04, 2017, 07:03:00 PM

Quote from: Daswiruch on April 04, 2017, 06:02:09 PM

in my podunk town our internet service is controlled by one company that gives stuff rates and high prices
i get a max of 150 kilobytes/s download speed and i rarely reach that. usually it's 50 kilobytes/s

jfc

cooolguy32 · April 04, 2017, 07:11:03 PM

Quote from: Daswiruch on April 04, 2017, 06:02:09 PM

in my podunk town our internet service is controlled by one company that gives stuff rates and high prices
i get a max of 150 kilobytes/s download speed and i rarely reach that. usually it's 50 kilobytes/s

what the fuk

Planr · April 04, 2017, 07:14:57 PM

Quote from: Pecon on April 04, 2017, 06:16:09 PM

Correct. Http sends data in plain text form.

So Blockland Forums is secure then, right? It's https

Nonnel · April 04, 2017, 07:17:33 PM

everything we write is open to the public so i don't think you could really call it secure
if your username is known then anyone can find out anything you've written, ISPs and governments included

Foxscotch · April 04, 2017, 08:49:56 PM

Quote from: Decepticon on April 04, 2017, 11:03:27 AM

this basically meant internet providers had different rights than software/service providers with respect to data.

as they should. you can choose not to use certain websites if you don't agree with the ways they use collected data. and while you certainly can choose not to use an ISP, it's not a reasonable decision in modern years and you certainly shouldn't have to choose between internet access and your right to privacy

Timestamp · April 04, 2017, 09:28:21 PM

Quote from: Daswiruch on April 04, 2017, 06:02:09 PM

in my podunk town our internet service is controlled by one company that gives stuff rates and high prices
i get a max of 150 kilobytes/s download speed and i rarely reach that. usually it's 50 kilobytes/s

Aide33 · April 04, 2017, 09:51:42 PM

Quote from: Planr on April 04, 2017, 07:14:57 PM

So Blockland Forums is secure then, right? It's https

the connection between you and the server is encrypted yes

Quote from: Nonnel on April 04, 2017, 07:17:33 PM

everything we write is open to the public so i don't think you could really call it secure
if your username is known then anyone can find out anything you've written, ISPs and governments included

it's not really about posts but about passwords, your PMs etc.

Frankie� · April 05, 2017, 12:05:10 AM

good stuff for finding terrorists

Nonnel · April 05, 2017, 12:47:49 AM

Quote from: Aide33 on April 04, 2017, 09:51:42 PM

it's not really about posts but about passwords, your PMs etc.

then yeah they shouldn't be able to get those

Punished Toxicology · April 05, 2017, 01:19:06 AM

more like donad Annoying Orange loves rule 34 Hhaha