[ALERT!] Terrorist Blows up Manchester Arena - Multiple Injured!

[beachbum111111]

If it is affiliated with CIA, that's exactly what they want: for the refugees to be sent back to a warzone, bitter and angry towards Europe, their homes long gone, and nowhere to go but to CIA.

If you kill your enemies they win

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[PhantOS]

free speech does not cover violence or encouragement of violence

I would think that you know this

it doesnt cover violence, and neither do the graphs on muslim beliefs

As for encouragement of violence, i think white people should be round up and killed. thankfully im protected by freedom of speech. If you want to hate me, go ahead, you have every right to do so. However, you cant do jack stuff to me.

once again, the beauty of this freedom is that it doesn't discriminate. This is why nothing will legally happen to me or any other muslim individuals with the same belief, and its also why people who want all muslims dead are also not punished

[Red Spy]

The only speech that isn't covered is the kind that actively encourages and promotes violence

everything else is fair game

[PhantOS]

Actively encouraging violence is also allowed. I think the line stops when you're directly threatening someone else. At that point it becomes harassment

[otto-san]

i don't think that works here, because magus wasn't presenting a naive, "kill-them-with-kindness" diplomacy option, he was offering a valid point about potential real-world consequences of just sending refugees with no intent of violence back to the places they're trying to escape. if you could prove that someone had malintent, i don't think anyone would protest much against rejecting their entry as a refugee

Actively encouraging violence is also allowed. I think the line stops when you're directly threatening someone else. At that point it becomes harassment

more generally speaking, your liberties tend to end when they directly encroach on the liberties of others.

[Red Spy]

Actively encouraging violence is also allowed.

Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass

[beachbum111111]

i don't think that works here, because magus wasn't presenting a naive, "kill-them-with-kindness" diplomacy option, he was offering a valid point about potential real-world consequences of just sending refugees with no intent of violence back to the places they're trying to escape. if you could prove that someone had malintent, i don't think anyone would protest much against rejecting their entry as a refugee

If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.

[PhantOS]

Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass

our president recently encouraged violence. its not illegal to promote violent actions, but it is harassment/premeditation to promote intent of violence

[PhantOS]

If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.

respecting the rights of innocent people is now 'coddling them like children'

what a world

[otto-san]

Is there like a sc case that rules this or are you pulling it out of your ass

this seems to be the most pertinent case: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1968/492

and it would seem to imply that no, speech that threatens to cause imminent criminal action is not protected.

If we need to coddle them like children and give them whatever they want or else they will freak out and join CIA then they definitely loving have malintent.

i never presented that argument, and if the context somehow gave the impression that i was implying it, i didn't mean for that to be the case. the point was that it's far more likely for an individual to become radicalized if they're rejected and cast out by the only societies that can give them hope for a better life, and it's very likely that they will instead flee toward a cause that convinces them of a promise for a better society if they're willing to fight for it.

[Red Spy]

our president recently encouraged violence.

Link?

its not illegal to promote violent actions, but it is harassment/premeditation to promote intent of violence

Yes it is. You can't tell a group of people to go beat the stuff out of another group of people because that's promoting violence

Tell this to a judge a week later and see how far it gets you

[Silreath]

itt: people using dead kids to push their activism and anti-activism

[otto-san]

Link?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/01/judge-to-Annoying Orange-no-protection-for-speech-inciting-violence.html

[PhantOS]

Yes it is. You can't tell a group of people to go beat the stuff out of another group of people because that's promoting violence

Tell this to a judge a week later and see how far it gets you

kill otto-san

wait did i do something illegal

[otto-san]

kill otto-san

wait did i do something illegal