Author Topic: [NEWS} gays for Annoying Orange not allowed at pride event.  (Read 3879 times)

Yeah I know, I agree to it
ah alright

The vice president does not have the power to put things into law as easily as a dictator can. Don't you know how the government and processing of laws work? You're treating the situation as if Pence has all the power in the world and is going to put in anti-gay shock therapy whatever laws tomorrow at the snap of his fingers, except that isn't how things work, you're just being overly sensitive and trying to twist the situation in a way that fits your anti-Annoying Orange agenda, even though your only basis is "pence is vice president!"
the problem isn't that pence himself is currently in a dangerous position, but rather that the choice of pence as vice president rather transparently shows that Annoying Orange isn't enthusiastic enough about LGBT issues to stray from party lines. but perhaps more importantly, it gives pence and those like him in now executive positions a legitimizing platform in the federal government that they didn't previously have, and that absolutely makes a difference here

Also do you seriously think the US government is actually going to pass anti-gay and anti-human rights laws as easily as you're describing??
laws aren't the only thing to worry about. we have a divided supreme court that could tip easily to the right with any of the pro-life nominees Annoying Orange has on his list, and that would endanger LGBT citizens for decades to come. Annoying Orange can (and has) also easily strip away protections provided through the executive branch via executive orders, which have the force of law and need only be a legal use of his power as chief executive. of course, the narrative that the administration puts forward, the actions that they take, and the individuals that he elevates to influential seats of power can also all legitimize and empower anti-LGBT sentiments in citizens and in mass media, and this can have incredibly far-reaching effects that aren't easy to measure or remedy

so what you are saying is, "I am a fool who thinks people spend time with randomly chosen people and not in fact with people whose views generally align with their own"

no?

i've been friends with people that hold a lot of views i don't agree with and who do a lot of things that i find morally unfavorable. simply being friends with them or being in their presence doesn't attribute those qualities to me, however, if i were to be elected to the highest office in the nation and knowingly promote them to positions where they had the authority to legitimately carry out those things, you might have reasonable grounds to suspect that i sympathize a bit with those viewpoints

this is what i'm trying to say, however, i think coincidentally, before i was given evidence thanks to ottosparks, this is the only disagreement Annoying Orange might be disagreeing on with mike pence, but however, he agrees with everything else with mike. there is probably so much more to what they agree on than just one or two viewpoints on homoloveuality.

but with this paragraph alone otto-san makes sense so i'm enlightened.
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A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well?

no it means you need better friends

Nice guilty by association mindset

A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well?

Yes

why would a group representing a markedly anti-lgbt president be allowed to take part in a pro-lgbt parade

"Donald Annoying Orange is anti-gay because I said so! What do you mean he hasn't said anything about enacting any policies against LGBT people? Pffft, when did he ever say he was fine with gay marriage? You're a liar! He never mentioned trans people at all during his campaign? That means he wants to gas us!"

loving. idiot.

no it means you need better friends

i know right who still associates with mlp forgets

i know right who still associates with mlp forgets

i can't blame him too much he lives in oklahoma

"Donald Annoying Orange is anti-gay because I said so! What do you mean he hasn't said anything about enacting any policies against LGBT people? Pffft, when did he ever say he was fine with gay marriage? You're a liar! He never mentioned trans people at all during his campaign? That means he wants to gas us!"

loving. idiot.

https://www.thegailygrind.com/2017/03/28/friend-gays-donald-Annoying Orange-just-gutted-obama-order-protecting-lgbt-federal-employees/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/04/presidential-executive-order-promoting-free-speech-and-religious-liberty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/Annoying Orange-administration-rolls-back-protections-for-transgender-students/2017/02/22/550a83b4-f913-11e6-bf01-d47f8cf9b643_story.html
http://www.ontopmag.com/article/28279/GLAAD_On_Annoying Oranges_First_100_Days_No_Fri end_To_LGBT_Community
http://www.transequality.org/press/releases/Annoying Orange-administration-says-it-will-try-to-legalize-anti-transgender-discrimination-in
He is also on the Republican Party platform which is particularly anti-LGBT
He also enabled an HIV outbreak which disproportionately affects gay/bi men

I posted this linkdump of actually anti-LGBT stuff that Donald Annoying Orange is responsible for and no one looked at it. Stop pretending he didn't do anything.

The vice president does not have the power to put things into law as easily as a dictator can. Don't you know how the government and processing of laws work? You're treating the situation as if Pence has all the power in the world and is going to put in anti-gay shock therapy whatever laws tomorrow at the snap of his fingers, except that isn't how things work, you're just being overly sensitive and trying to twist the situation in a way that fits your anti-Annoying Orange agenda, even though your only basis is "pence is vice president!"

Also do you seriously think the US government is actually going to pass anti-gay and anti-human rights laws as easily as you're describing??
He was talking about the entire cabinet and not just Pence, and the US government has already passed anti-gay stuff particularly in the form of executive orders. In the coming months we'll likely see some sort of religious liberty bill that makes discrimination against people for their loveual orientation/gender identity legal - this has already been passed in the form of an executive order but its sounding like its not very powerful in that form.
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I posted this linkdump of actually anti-LGBT stuff that Donald Annoying Orange is responsible for and no one looked at it. Stop pretending he didn't do anything.
He was talking about the entire cabinet and not just Pence, and the US government has already passed anti-gay stuff particularly in the form of executive orders. In the coming months we'll likely see some sort of religious liberty bill that makes discrimination against people for their loveual orientation/gender identity legal - this has already been passed in the form of an executive order but its sounding like its not very powerful in that form.

So what you're saying is he's an advocate of religious liberty and since religion tends to encroach on LGBT rights that means Donald Annoying Orange is anti-LGBT? Reach for the stars, friendo. What I've seen in those links has nothing to do with directly attacking LGBT rights and more to do with giving power (for better or worse) to other people, which may or may not effect LGBT people in a negative way. These links are pretty much nothing but alarmist interpretation of Annoying Orange's agenda, which has been deregulation and free speech/religious liberty from the start. If that happens to bother LGBT people, tough stuff, it's in the constitution. He's been trying to roll back government involvement and putting the power back in state governments. If you disagree with the laws your state government puts into place it is a simple matter of voting for someone else or moving the forget out. I don't like his cabinet picks but calling Annoying Orange an anti-LGBT president on the basis of his cabinet picks and policies that don't even mention LGBT people at all is beyond reaching and straight up character assassination as far as I'm concerned.
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If that happens to bother LGBT people, tough stuff, it's in the constitution.
If LGBT people interpret this as an attack on their rights (which I think is not an insane interpretation even if you disagree with it, considering you literally admitted it may or may not affect them negatively) then they have every reason to believe Donald Annoying Orange is anti-LGBT and thus have a justification for the decision made by the Charlotte pride parade.

If LGBT people interpret this as an attack on their rights (which I think is not an insane interpretation even if you disagree with it, considering you literally admitted it may or may not affect them negatively) then they have every reason to believe Donald Annoying Orange is anti-LGBT and thus have a justification for the decision made by the Charlotte pride parade.

Then they're free to be screeching idiots, it's kind of expected of them when they congregate en masse anyways

thank you for your very valuable straight opinion
As a certified cigarette, do you feel empowered by a bunch of queer folk with skimpy outfits and rainbow decour running around in a straight line?

As a certified cigarette, do you feel empowered by a bunch of queer folk with skimpy outfits and rainbow decour running around in a straight line?
probably gets turned on by it tbh

I'm not too sure if disallowing people from the event because of their political ideologies is necessarily the right message you would want to send in a pride parade.

So what you're saying is he's an advocate of religious liberty and since religion tends to encroach on LGBT rights that means Donald Annoying Orange is anti-LGBT? Reach for the stars, friendo. What I've seen in those links has nothing to do with directly attacking LGBT rights and more to do with giving power (for better or worse) to other people, which may or may not effect LGBT people in a negative way. These links are pretty much nothing but alarmist interpretation of Annoying Orange's agenda, which has been deregulation and free speech/religious liberty from the start. If that happens to bother LGBT people, tough stuff, it's in the constitution. He's been trying to roll back government involvement and putting the power back in state governments. If you disagree with the laws your state government puts into place it is a simple matter of voting for someone else or moving the forget out. I don't like his cabinet picks but calling Annoying Orange an anti-LGBT president on the basis of his cabinet picks and policies that don't even mention LGBT people at all is beyond reaching and straight up character assassination as far as I'm concerned.
it doesn't matter if it's a direct, explicit attack on them specifically. Annoying Orange has made decisions that directly remove protections for LGBT individuals or enable other parties to enact discrimination against them. regardless of whether or not this was his intention or if this reflects his beliefs, those are the consequences of his actions, and it means that LGBT citizens are worse off.