Author Topic: Tactical Nuke's first computer build! (MINIMIZNG COSTS)  (Read 9122 times)

what does RGB do in terms of RAM?

its coloured lighting on the top

literally nothing besides looking pretty, iirc g.skill has software for their trident Z's you can customise the lights with

ninja edit to elaborate: the ones I linked don't have lighting so you wont need the software, the ones you currently have set do have the lights

might as well answer these too:

also he said you're all wrong and that there is no such thing as more than enough RAM
he really likes his RAM

depends on what you're doing, creative software (music, drawing, modelling) tend to use up a lot of ram but even then 16gb should do fine, in my personal experience I can run 2 discord clients (main account on normal and bot account on canary), play GTA V, have music going and be drawing with only about 14 gig used.

I also need an in-depth explanation on shadowplay or whatever it's called, and what's required to do it

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/shadowplay/

just records the last couple of minutes - 30 seconds of your game for those Epic Gamer Moments. Also lets you stream to youtube / twitch
« Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 03:46:26 AM by SteveJenkins »

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/psqL3F

updated

to those talking about overclocking, should I keep the 1700 cpu or stick with the 1800x I added?

oc 1700 + better cooler

as for a mouse, i use a g500s for my setup at home (i got 2 for $80 each; i'd never spend $170 on a single mouse lol). At work and with my laptop i use this $25 sharkk mouse and honestly it does the job of gaming and design/modeling work 75% as well at 15% the price of the logitech, and it's wireless (i hate wires). imho you don't need to spend much on a mouse, what refticus said was spot-on-- for mice and keyboards

that mouse you linked me is $170, not $80

what is the difference between 3.7 GHz and 4.0 GHz performance CPU-wise? I also need convincing that I'd be able to overclock safely to 3.7 GHz with the default cooler

ryzen does not really overclock at all so you're completely fine with the 1700, you do not need anything better especially for gaming and i think it should handle fls very well

why is everyone in the comments and everyone here saying it overclocks if it doesn't

they do "not really overclock at all" in the sense that ryzen's oc potential isn't high relative to older amd chips or intel chips. you can still overclock them

that mouse you linked me is $170, not $80

ik bc i got them at a liquidation sale. i wasn't at all recommending it anyways, my point was buy cheap-ish because expensive mice aren't worth it

Save some money and dont use 32Gb of ram

Have you ever heard of m.2 ssd drives? If you get the right one theyre much faster than your normal ssd but theyre expensive - they can boot your system in less than 6 seconds
« Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 11:37:20 AM by Kyuande »

I'm not going to compromise on the RAM, this is a multi-task setup and if I can get more RAM I'll get more RAM

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx?crid=7

this is my current mouse, it has to charge using a wire which is incredibly awkward with my computer's setup

right now I'm set on hard drives, if you can get me a different 1 TB drive that's cheaper then by all means go ahead

If you dont want save money and buy unnecessary RAM go ahead

RAM is easy enough to slip more in of you need it.

16gb should be enough: my work PC for software Dev runs 16gb and I do just fine. Several (10+) Visual Studio instances open at once, several of which currently running the project with debugger attached. Never really needed more.

I also do a ton of photo editing at home on 16gb and never felt limited either.

You're not really "compromising" because unlike all the other components, you don't have to completely replace what you have, you just pop in another stick or two if you do end up needing more



re the previous discussion on RAIDs:
RAIDs are nice for redundancy, if you lose a drive you still have another driver with the same data. If you're doing a ton of FL studio stuff you'll really appreciate not losing it all if a drive dies
But SSDs are better for performance.

Of course that doesn't mean you can't do both.
Have a small SSD for the OS and few applications, and then a large RAID for data
« Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 12:43:47 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

I'll look into how much RAM I actually need, but I'm prepping for running a youtube vid or two, drawing on my drawing tablet, playing a graphics-heavy game on shadowplay and running fl studio comfortably with all the plugins open all at the same time. That might not take 32 gigs, but that's what I'm prepping for. If it turns out I don't need 32 gigs even for that, then I'll drop off two sticks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f9Xsd6

I heard from Unbox Therapy that there are apparently WD Blue hard drives with built-in SSDs, making them a hybrid of sorts

is this true and how does it compare to an actual SSD

hybrid drives have 2 speeds - it is slow as a hard drive when it writes/reads new files, but when it finds the file frequently, it is fast as an ssd - they are slightly more than your regular hard drive but cheaper than your regular solid state drive - honestly i dont know what actual use these would be (id rather just get an ssd)

according to your part it doesnt say anything about being an ssd/hybrid - i guess it's just certain parts if you find the right one

ssds are better if you want every file to be super fast to load
i mentioned m.2 ssd because they're much faster if you get the right one - another question when you get these super fast drives is, do you really need that much storage? you gotta really think of these questions when you build your computer, if you want to expand later that's good but having too much to start (especially when on a budget) is a little concerning even though you'll never run out of room for a longer time

I am getting this for my operating system and a few programs on it (120GB): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236156
honestly that's just enough for high priority programs for me - it is faster than your normal SATA which is why it's more expensive (3GB/s versus 3 Gigabit/s) - your system would boot in a few seconds using this drive rather than taking another 5 seconds - i mean this does sound stupid but when you're trying to convert GIANT files this is definitely the way to go

but i like to have my system run super fast all the time so m.2 is pretty good



more suggestions will come if we can know what exactly are your plans on this new computer
« Last Edit: October 04, 2017, 08:41:23 PM by Kyuande »