Author Topic: Annoying Orange admin. to reverse ban on elephant trophies from Africa (Read 4825 times)

SeventhSandwich · November 16, 2017, 08:37:50 PM

Quote from: otto-san on November 16, 2017, 04:00:49 PM

can you elaborate a bit more? i'm having trouble making a line of logic that connects more hunting to more live elephants

unless this is a mcjoke in which case i'm a fool

The countries that elephants inhabit are historically extremely poor. There is very little economic incentive to put away massive swathes of land and resources to protect the ecosystem.

However, when rich people come over to do 'big game hunting', they get to shoot one of many hundreds of elephants (usually ones that are sick, or overly aggressive to the point where they endanger other animals) and they spend ridiculous amounts of money, which gets used to secure more habitat and fight against poaching. The net effect is that one elephant dies but many more are saved.

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Red Spy · November 16, 2017, 08:41:33 PM

can we get ivory piano keys at least

Foxscotch · November 16, 2017, 09:16:17 PM

honestly trophy hunting does a pretty decent amount of good for conservation efforts
as I guess sev has already said

I think this isn't necessarily a bad decision, as long as the legality of importing them requires that they are proven to be legally obtained, and not poached

Nonnel · November 16, 2017, 09:19:37 PM

yeah my beef is mostly that poachers could potentially have, y'know, a really good reason to poach.

Planr · November 16, 2017, 09:40:06 PM

im honestly legitimately surprised at sevenths reaction to this, i wouldve expected him to be upset about this. never thought of it the way he is thinking of it tho
gotta think seventh-dimensionally about this i guess

Quote from: hodototman on November 16, 2017, 12:59:59 PM

guys I don't think this is how conservation works

i know this is completely random but the rhythm at which they put their hands on their head almost perfectly fits the tempo of the NFL on Fox theme, which i was listening to when i saw this gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbU4fPYRvcY

Vigil · November 16, 2017, 10:09:59 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on November 16, 2017, 09:19:37 PM

yeah my beef is mostly that poachers could potentially have, y'know, a really good reason to poach.

I�m worried it becomes �give an inch take a mile�.

Deus Ex · November 16, 2017, 10:17:05 PM

Quote from: Nonnel on November 16, 2017, 09:19:37 PM

yeah my beef is mostly that poachers could potentially have, y'know, a really good reason to poach.

You mean besides the money they already make from poaching

Foxscotch · November 16, 2017, 10:26:54 PM

Quote from: Planr on November 16, 2017, 09:40:06 PM

im honestly legitimately surprised at sevenths reaction to this, i wouldve expected him to be upset about this. never thought of it the way he is thinking of it tho

a lot of people don't, and just go with a knee-jerk "killing [endangered] animals is bad" sort of reaction

Quote from: Vigil on November 16, 2017, 10:09:59 PM

I�m worried it becomes �give an inch take a mile�.

the US doesn't control how much of the trophy hunting is done, that is up to the reserves in africa, and this law (or lack of it) has no real effect on it