Is Communism the worst? Or national socialistsm is the worst?

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Which one is the worst political party?

Communists
73 (49.3%)
national socialists
75 (50.7%)

Total Members Voted: 148

Author Topic: Is Communism the worst? Or national socialistsm is the worst?  (Read 16303 times)

The communists were so stuff at running a state that they let their own people die. The national socialists only had people die due to ethnic cleansing

any branch belief of communism such as maoism or stalinism will kill a lot of people but their sole purpose isn't to do it out of evil, since literally the base idea is "share the wealth" and "work hard", which idealistically is what people wanted back then. communism is basically broken because of greed unlike a dictatorship/fascist state where they do multiple choices out of spite and "evil".
Killing people is evil regardless of the intention

Mao was a skilled general though. Won against all odds.

I would actually respect him if the death toll was intentional. But no it was just plain stupidity.


It's almost like communists killed 117+ million people in the last century or something compared to 17 million killed by the national socialists.

Killing people through incompetence and mismanagement is still killing them. Negligent homicide is homicide.

The communists were so stuff at running a state that they let their own people die. The national socialists only had people die due to ethnic cleansing
communists did ethnically cleanse people as well.

They're both horrible, but communism is definitely worse, if we are going by mere death tolls as a result of its practice. 60+ million dead under communist dictatorships worldwide vs <10 million dead under national socialistsm. Wouldn't want to be in either situation.
i think the distinction here is that there were ~67 million people in germany for the ~10 years that the national socialists were in power and 600 million (1950)-1.5 billion (1990) soviets and chinese for ~70 years that communists were in power (and still in china but the great leap forward is over)

When China turned communist, Mao Zedong killed over 90 million innocent people from what I have read. Mao Zedong is the real devil to ever live, he's killed more people than Riddler and Stalin combined
he wasn't evil, just loving handicapped.

everyone starved equally under communism so it technically worked

Killing people is evil regardless of the intention

nobody argued otherwise dude, the only difference is they are stupid and national socialists are just starfishs

i think the distinction here is that there were ~67 million people in germany for the ~10 years that the national socialists were in power and 600 million (1950)-1.5 billion (1990) soviets and chinese for ~70 years that communists were in power (and still in china but the great leap forward is over)
he wasn't evil, just loving handicapped.
If you're talking about genocide proportional to population size, Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed approximately a third of the Cambodian population.

What does he mean by that?
an identical thread popped up a while ago. they never reach any conclusion. its always just 50 pages of arguing

the more I think about it communism is worse because national socialists embrace the label of national socialistsm yet communists will always turn around and say "that wasn't real communism" which is a good way of saying "if I were in charge I would've implemented it perfectly" which gives communism a lot more lifetime than national socialistsm which everyone universally agrees is bad


Killing people is evil regardless of the intention
are you speaking just in reference to the responsibilities of country leaders or are you speaking universally here

alright you can't blame mao's stupidity on communism

he wasn't evil, just loving handicapped.
are you speaking just in reference to the responsibilities of country leaders or are you speaking universally here
In reference to leadership. I see no moral distinction between negligently creating famine and genocide. The end result of both is the same.

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The Cemetery of Confucius was attacked in November 1966 by a team of Red Guards from Beijing Normal University, led by Tan Houlan.[14][15] The corpse of the 76th-generation Duke Yansheng was removed from its grave and hung naked from a tree in front of the palace during the desecration of the cemetery.[16] Attacks on other cultural and historic sites happened between in 1966 and 1967. One of the greater damages was to the Ming Dynasty Tomb of the Wanli Emperor in which his and the empress’s corpses along with a variety of artifacts from the tomb were destroyed by student members of the Red Guard. Between the assaults on Wan Li and Confucius’ tombs alone, more than 6618 historic Chinese artifacts were destroyed in the desire to achieve the goals of the Cultural Revolution.[17]

alright you can't blame mao's stupidity on communism
the authoritarian control of communist dictatorship allowed his negligence to kill far more people i.e. the order to kill all the sparrows that resulted in massive crop failure.

Comparing them solely by death toll isn't exactly accurate since fascism wasn't popular for quite as long as communism was, giving communism more time to kill more people.
Plus there's the fact that fascism was so aggressive they started a world war from their ambitions to conquer everybody else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution#Struggle_sessions_and_purges
In reference to leadership. I see no moral distinction between negligently creating famine and genocide. The end result of both is the same.

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whoops. evil and loving handicapped.

alright you can't blame mao's stupidity on communism

make taiwan china again