Author Topic: U.S.A. Politics Thread (Read 256214 times)

MoltenKitten · July 19, 2022, 07:19:46 AM

Quote from: plad101 on July 19, 2022, 06:40:25 AM

If you say it doesn't allow "normal people" once again I swear I'm gonna have an aneurysm. SCOTUS has confirmed that it's not the power of the Militia to bare arms, its of the people. It's also ya know, written that it is.

Because that's literally what the constitution says, at the time of writing almost every single gun owner would have been a part of a militia. SCOTUS may have made that ruling but as we've seen that can be overruled at literally any time.

Also seeing as you seem to be all up in arms about grammar I'm going to inform you that you used the wrong bear there. I'd also like to inform you that the commas in the 2nd amendment are used to indicate a non-restrictive clause meaning that it doesn't override the original idea (even if SCOTUS thinks it does).

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Deus Ex · July 19, 2022, 11:07:49 AM

Quote from: MoltenKitten on July 18, 2022, 08:49:53 PM

Yes, we should listen to a vague statement in a document made almost 250 years ago when most firearms could only fire one ball with an excruciatingly long reload.

With this logic we should ignore the first amendment and the thirteenth since their views are clearly outdated, and modern handicaps like yourself know better

Potatoh · July 19, 2022, 12:41:08 PM

Quote from: Potatoh on July 18, 2022, 11:52:35 PM

is it a sound assumption to think maybe you never go outside in past and present tense

okay i apologize i did not intend to get this uncivil

MoltenKitten · July 19, 2022, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: Deus Ex on July 19, 2022, 11:07:49 AM

With this logic we should ignore the first amendment and the thirteenth since their views are clearly outdated, and modern handicaps like yourself know better

Ah yes the ole "I have no counter so I'll throw an insult" approach. You know what both of those amendments have that 2A doesn't? Pretty explicit detail as to what they apply to and who they apply to.

mod-man · July 19, 2022, 04:00:10 PM

Quote from: MoltenKitten on July 19, 2022, 03:46:51 PM

You know what both of those amendments have that 2A doesn't? Pretty explicit detail as to what they apply to and who they apply to.

Quote from: MoltenKitten on July 19, 2022, 03:46:51 PM

Pretty explicit detail as to what they apply to

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

Quote from: MoltenKitten on July 19, 2022, 03:46:51 PM

who they apply to.

"the right of the people"

granted i totally bogarted everything yall was talkin' about. whats missing exactly?

Aide33 · July 19, 2022, 08:21:49 PM

Quote from: Deus Ex on July 19, 2022, 11:07:49 AM

With this logic we should ignore the first amendment and the thirteenth since their views are clearly outdated, and modern handicaps like yourself know better

do you understand the concept of "some things can be good and others can be bad based on moral choices" or are you the kind of person that think we should repeal the entire constitution if we dont like 1 amendment that the constitution allows us to amend

Crook · July 19, 2022, 09:53:24 PM

There is no point in debating grammatical semantics about the constitution like a politician, it wont make you right. It is plainly telling you that citizens should have a deterrent against the government; which they can be in charge of. There is nothing wrong with this sentiment. I'd say an AR-15 is pretty tame compared to an Abrams, so frankly the leeway is in the wrong direction. I don't wanna hear about the foresight of the people who defeated the British empire from people who can't defeat me in the octagon

teeds427 · July 20, 2022, 03:44:28 AM

I propose we ban guns entirely and therefore force the government to spend 1.5 billion dollars to finance the rapier sword community

Master Matthew� · July 20, 2022, 10:45:44 AM

Quote from: Aide33 on July 19, 2022, 08:21:49 PM

do you understand the concept of "some things can be good and others can be bad based on moral choices" or are you the kind of person that think we should repeal the entire constitution if we dont like 1 amendment that the constitution allows us to amend

There is amending the constitution, and then there's ignoring the constitution. The Democrats choose the latter because they KNOW they can't
successfully amend the constitution. In choosing to willfully and actively violate the constitution, they set a legal precedent that the constitution
comes second to political goals and ideology. That's why you hear arguments toward violations of other amendments. Because when you ignore
any part of the constitution in passing a law, you ignore all of them.

Then, when it is tried in court, the court will rule that there is precedent from another law violating the constitution in "a negligible way." enough to
justify letting this violation slide. And then the next court ruling will use that legal ruling as precedent. Precedent builds Precedent, and when you
set the precedent for them violating one of your constitutional rights, they set the precedent to violate ALL of your constitutional rights.

Deus Ex · July 20, 2022, 09:35:46 PM

Quote from: Aide33 on July 19, 2022, 08:21:49 PM

do you understand the concept of "some things can be good and others can be bad based on moral choices" or are you the kind of person that think we should repeal the entire constitution if we dont like 1 amendment that the constitution allows us to amend

I think arguing semantics like handicaps makes (royal) you unqualified to speak on constitutional rights
2A is pretty direct, arguing nonsense about what a "well regulated militia" is makes you look handicapped

Aide33 · July 21, 2022, 09:47:47 AM

Quote from: Deus Ex on July 20, 2022, 09:35:46 PM

I think arguing semantics like handicaps makes (royal) you unqualified to speak on constitutional rights
2A is pretty direct, arguing nonsense about what a "well regulated militia" is makes you look handicapped

you are confusing me for someone else, I wasn't arguing against your interpretation, I was arguing your leap in logic where you went "if one amendment is dumb by modern standards we should repeal everything"

Deus Ex · July 21, 2022, 12:41:39 PM

Quote from: Aide33 on July 21, 2022, 09:47:47 AM

you are confusing me for someone else, I wasn't arguing against your interpretation, I was arguing your leap in logic where you went "if one amendment is dumb by modern standards we should repeal everything"

Yeah I said royal you to denote Im not talking about you specifically

Aide33 · July 21, 2022, 08:51:02 PM

Quote from: Deus Ex on July 21, 2022, 12:41:39 PM

Yeah I said royal you to denote Im not talking about you specifically

ah sorry didnt catch that

Master Matthew� · July 23, 2022, 12:16:49 AM

Quote from: Master Matthew� on August 27, 2020, 11:31:15 PM

https://timcast.com/news/trucker-blockade-shuts-california-port/

In response to a law that limited how many independent contractors a company could have, truckers have began blockading a critical california port.
This short sighted and stupid law will cost them their jobs, since truckers are overwhelmingly independent contractors.

No wonder cities are becoming stuffholes.

Foxscotch · July 23, 2022, 12:21:29 AM

Quote from: Master Matthew� on July 23, 2022, 12:16:49 AM

In response to a law that limited how many exploited workers a company could have, truckers have began blockading a critical california port.
This short sighted and stupid law will cost them their jobs, since truckers are overwhelmingly exploited.

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