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I can't refute everything in the fire hose that is Ladio's posts (The reason I locked the last topic.) I'd like to just make one two small points:

274 Palestinians died. (Maybe) This is very very different than your claim that 274 civilians died. If you're going to spread information you could at least make sure it's accurate.

I find your posts to have a lot of shock and horror that's supposed to be taken at face value. You make lots of edits to update numbers since you're willing to grab any story that backs up your side the instant it releases. If I was doing the same I could be posting links to stories that one of the hostage keepers was a journalist for Al Jazeera, the propaganda news source you frequently post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism
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These posts were meant for entertainment purposes through trolling and I apologize for my mischaracterization of the situation in Israel.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:02:04 AM by Ladios »

you literally got completely loving dogwalked on this topic already and locked your thread without responding. you are a dumbass literally just stop posting

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274 Palestinians died. (Maybe)
in every conflict before this one, the gaza ministry of health's numbers have fallen extremely close to the number the UN eventually settles on. israeli and US intelligence have been relying on their data for 2 decades



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If I was doing the same I could be posting links to stories that one of the hostage keepers was a journalist for Al Jazeera
literally the only source for this is the IDF

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the propaganda news source you frequently post.
every media organization in israel, including foreign media like CNN, is subject to censorship by military censors, so there isn't really a "non-propaganda" unbiased source anywhere in the region. al jazeera's reporting on the conflict is pretty much the best in the region, but direct accounts from people in gaza are even better. some israeli outlets are pretty good too (+972 mag for instance, and sometimes haartez).

These posts were meant for entertainment purposes through trolling and I apologize for my mischaracterization of the situation in Israel.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:02:11 AM by Ladios »


Read the last sentence in the image you posted and think a little.
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literally the only source for this is the IDF
Did I link that or in anyway claim that it was factual? Notice the IF in my post? I'm saying that posting about that would be as accurate as solely quoting Al Jazzera.

Did I link that or in anyway claim that it was factual? Notice the IF in my post? I'm saying that posting about that would be as accurate as solely quoting Al Jazzera.
And Ladios counter-pointed that by bringing up multiple other news sources other than Al Jazeera.

Read the last sentence in the image you posted and think a little.
You said 274 Palestinians died "maybe". I didn't say anything about combatants or noncombatants. I was pointing out that the GHM figures on the total death toll have been reliable for decades.

That being said, if the IDF is claiming only around 100 people died, and in reality 274 people died which I believe is credible, then we can infer that the 174 people they didn't count were completely accidental collateral damage. Because the IDF claims to have a robust accurate count of how many combatants they've killed (currently they say it's around 14,000.)

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Did I link that or in anyway claim that it was factual? Notice the IF in my post? I'm saying that posting about that would be as accurate as solely quoting Al Jazzera.
I understand that, I just wanted to make it explicit that the IDF is the only source for that claim.

Also now I want to say that those aren't directly comparable entities. Al-Jazeera is a well-regarded media organization, albeit one that you can expect to exhibit a pro-Qatar bias. Whereas the IDF is a historically unreliable primary source and literally one of the parties in the conflict.

evil jew scum
true

I can't refute everything in the fire hose that is Ladio's posts (The reason I locked the last topic.)
ha


never seen hungergames i cant relate

These posts were meant for entertainment purposes through trolling and I apologize for my mischaracterization of the situation in Israel.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:02:24 AM by Ladios »

These posts were meant for entertainment purposes through trolling and I apologize for my mischaracterization of the situation in Israel.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:02:33 AM by Ladios »

It does seem reasonable to ignore a number that is intentionally made misleading. It's kinda weird you're saying...
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This is a legal order, by our own government, to ignore the facts of what is happening.
immediately after being misled yourself.

These posts were meant for entertainment purposes through trolling and I apologize for my mischaracterization of the situation in Israel.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:02:42 AM by Ladios »

If the numbers are intentionally misleading then why has the US Govenrment been using those same numbers for over twenty years?
Not relevant. How would I possibly know that?

Can you explain why using a number that includes enemy combatants is a good number to use for an estimate of necessary civilian aid?