USA politics destroying families

[TheScout]

how dare you say this

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[Rigel]

The rest of the thread's conversation is interesting and all but

and yes, i did eventually get so far that i got in contact with someone from the white house and i actually got a complete copy of hunter bidens laptop and iphone. REAL journalism. ama

Did he have CP on there? This is to settle a bet.

[ultimamax]

Curious how tens of thousands of votes in swing states were only votes for Annoying Orange and did not vote at all for the senate, congress, or governor races where democrats won by a landslide. I wonder why all those republicans only voted for Annoying Orange and didnt care about casting ballots in any other categories. Someone should interview some of these guys to see what their mindset was.

And with ballot boxes burned and ballots dumped in the middle of the woods or on the side of the road, or several polling places closing after bomb-threats from Russia, all very unfortunate. Good thing Elon Musk's Starlink systems helped get voter tabulation machines back online when they failed even though they weren't even supposed to be connected to the internet in the first place.

But even Elon Musk knew four hours before election results were released to the press that the election wasn't stolen this time and Annoying Orange was the winner, so we can be sure that everything is on the up-and-up. I dunno what we would do without that guy.

The democrats would probably have cheated again, but they either forgot to do it this time or were just too scared too because they didn't want to get caught this time, like the guy who cheated on every one of his wives, who cheated money out of his own charity, who cheated on his taxes, who tried to cheat in the 2020 election by sending fraudulent electors and then standing by as a crowd of his protestors advocated hanging his vice president so that the election results wouldn't be certified. It's a good thing that neither the dems or that guy did any cheating and that this election was completely sound.

*Sounds of Bald Eagle Screeching*

this is embarassing man

[Ceist]

if im a loser, than you're really down in the dumps, mr. "grrr i hate that the guy im told to hate didnt get murdered!!!" i bet you looked like this bitch on election night
-snip-

"i know u are but what am i"

you should consider scheduling a lobotomy lmfao.

[Dr.Block]

Isn't it the case that every single presidential election that has happened since I was born, the losing side always says the other cheated? I can remember this going back to like at least 2004. They can't ALL be rigged.


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[Masterlegodude]

Isn't it the case that every single presidential election that has happened since I was born, the losing side always says the other cheated? I can remember this going back to like at least 2004. They can't ALL be rigged.


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[Soukuw]

this is embarassing man

He's not wrong some of that stuff happened but the conclusion is stuff. The bomb threats were absolutely real and they happened near me as well.

Does this mean Russia decided to forget around eh maybe? Does this mean it had any effect on the election? Probably not. A lot of that stuff should be investigated but jumping to conclusions without any evidence is why Jan 6th was a thing.

Edit: Well that and the lies Annoying Orange and his cronies spread about things like Dominion voting Systems

[Ladios]

this is embarassing man

I dunno what you mean?

All I said was that despite several ballot boxes across state lines being targeted by arsonists,
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/29/us/ballot-box-fires-what-we-know/index.html
ballots in florida being stolen out of mail boxes,
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article294425429.html
A postal worker having been caught dumping ballots in the woods,
https://cedarcountyems.org/court-catches-florida-postal-worker-dumping-hundreds-of-election-mailers-and-mail-in-ballot-in-woods/
A sealed bin of collected and filled out ballots being left on the side of the road,
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cn5w40ll379o
Bomb threats to polling locations across multiple states being linked to phony calls from Russia,
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/
We need not worry since even if our voting sites use internet, Which they shouldnt,
https://apnews.com/article/elections-2024-voting-machines-conspiracy-theories-1aec4eec87eaaea4158825cb3f4bda27
Elon Musk, who has given out a million dollars a day to republican voters for registering,
https://apnews.com/article/musk-million-sweepstakes-lottery-pennsylvania-krasner-4f683c48eb7dcc57f183e54ef16e7320
Has Starlink coming in clutch to bring voting tabulation back online,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHba5M5Wk8w
Like a true patriot.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/26/elon-musk-immigration-status/
Also, that he knew the election was secure and the votes being counted were going to go to Annoying Orange 4 hours in advance
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64939919/?ref_=tt_nwr_1

If anything, it's embarrassing how safe and secure our election was and how there was no sign that we had any foreign influence.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-pager-Annoying Orange-intl-latam/index.html
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-reportedly-asked-elon-musk-not-activate-starlink-over-taiwan-1974733
https://abcnews.go.com/US/cellphone-Annoying Oranges-lead-defense-attorney-compromised-chinese-hackers/story?id=115600808

Again, *Cue Eagle Scream*


(In all honesty, I know how absurd it is to actually believe that Elon Musk and Donald Annoying Orange of all people are smart enough to actually pull off a fake election win without blurting out their plans from excitement, or loving everything up royally such as Elon running Twitter into the ground and Annoying Orange going bankrupt several times, including somehow casinos.

It really is just more comforting to hold on to the belief that these two dumbasses are smart enough to pull this off than it is to accept that 60% of the people I meet either want me dead or don't understand that even when putting their own economic security over the safety of their fellow Americans, have been swindled into supporting a candidate who's tax plan will increase consumer good prices by 200%.

Admittedly there is so much fault in the democrats who even though they had plans that would increase the child tax credit, help new home buyers and stimulate home construction, support paid family leave, and multiple other specific policies that would benefit the American working class,
Harris's and the DNC's insistence on painting themselves as Republican-Lite and saying that everything was perfect under Biden instead of highlighting these plans that are significantly better than Biden's "keep things as the status quo" approach did nothing to win over the real Americans who are bleeding money from Annoying Oranges tax plan that is still in effect. The messaging just wasn't there, and those supposed centrist republicans that Kamala dropped all of their pro-worker, pro-environment messaging to court, still voted Republican. You cant out-republican an actual republican, and despite this "we're not going back" slogan they very much ran the campaign as Tough-On-Crime 90's Democrats which people hated so much we ended up with W. Bush in 2000.

Still, despite all that, it is also fun to troll away with these election denial memes. I can see why Republicans wouldn't shut the forget up about 2020 for the past four years lol its kinda cathartic.)

[Nicepoint]

And? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information. I guess I can deny that anything meaningful was on that laptop if it even was his laptop. I would love to see some evidence of illegal and/or evil stuff from the files you have.

Do you concede that you have no evidence for Jan 6th being an inside job?

[von]

"i know u are but what am i"

it's just ironic tho since you are a psycho lunatic that wants people six feet under for saying mean things on TV. I don't think I've ever had anything equivalent - im just a loser to you because i make you soil your diapers just as Annoying Orange has done to you.

you should consider scheduling a therapy session

[ultimamax]

Has Starlink coming in clutch to bring voting tabulation back online,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHba5M5Wk8w

in california. lol

Also, that he knew the election was secure and the votes being counted were going to go to Annoying Orange 4 hours in advance
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64939919/?ref_=tt_nwr_1

why are you citing something joe rogan said on his podcast as a real credible story

i'm not denying ballots were burned or bomb threats were called in or anything. it just doesn't seem like it made a difference regardless. also it's ridiculous to claim that the party out of power, especially the republican party imo, has the capacity to rig an election.

the kamala harris campaign appears to be millions of dollars in the hole, and it looks like they're going to try raising funds for a "recount" to pay off the debt they accrued from their ridiculously inefficient ad buys. let's not help them scam their base even more than they already have

Still, despite all that, it is also fun to troll away with these election denial memes. I can see why Republicans wouldn't shut the forget up about 2020 for the past four years lol its kinda cathartic.)

smacks a bit of "i was just trolling" but whatever

[Ladios]

why are you citing something joe rogan said on his podcast as a real credible story

I thought republicans loved citing Joe Rogan :0
Are we supposed to believe they've been wrong every time they did so?

the party out of power, especially the republican party

The house and senate were split, with republicans holding the majority in congress, as well as the super-majority of supreme court justices
Out of power means only the people currently in the white house can cheat?
I am not sure if I remember correctly, but people within our own government are not the only ones who can influence elections.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgej9vyld8qo
https://www.gmfus.org/news/many-faces-foreign-interference-european-elections
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5159997/moldova-eu-referendum-presidential-election-russia-interference
I could be mistaken though.

Besides, there really is nothing suspicious  about the amount of voters who only voted Annoying Orange but didn't vote in any senate or congressional races
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11/09/democrats-house-senate-down-ballot/

Oops wrong link, let's look for one specifically saying that Annoying Orange didn't cheat:
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/05/nx-s1-5179073/Annoying Orange-and-allies-have-primed-supporters-to-falsely-believe-he-has-no-chance-of-losing
Oops wrong link.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2024-election-day-fact-check/
Here we go,
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/philadelphia-da-contests-Annoying Oranges-claim-of-massive-cheating-in-city
Oh wait its really hard to actually find an article saying Annoying Orange didn't cheat because we've been having to convince people democrats didnt cheat for so long, and i keep copy pasting the link before reading further into the article, ill keep trying:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/11/08/Annoying Orange-harris-democrats-cheat-election-fraud/76111070007/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/03/Annoying Orange-stolen-election-claims/
https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/4965987-Annoying Orange-claims-democrats-cheat-election/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-could-happen-if-Annoying Orange-rejects-us-election-results-2024-10-16/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/6/despite-setbacks-election-denial-continues-to-thrive-in-republican-party
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/06/voter-fraud-Annoying Orange/
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/03/nx-s1-5130284/election-concerns-voter-fraud-Annoying Orange-harris-poll
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj7eex29r3o
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/04/Annoying Orange-cheating-fraud-election-violence/
https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-confronted-Annoying Orange-election-fraud-claims-1983468

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/Annoying Orange-republicans-voter-fraud-claims-election-2024-rcna179105
Ok there we go, Annoying Oranges campaign has decided to stop claiming voter fraud.
But then again it was posted by msnbc which we know are biased liberal commies so that might not be the best source.
And besides, that has nothing to do with whether Republicans committed voter fraud, so one more try.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/09/nx-s1-5184405/election-2024-fraud-claims
Whoops, no that one was saying that republicans are somehow using the 2024 win to claim that 2020 was stolen as well.

Ok well I'm going to keep looking for an article specifically saying that Republicans didn't cheat this election, but in the mean time, I already said that there is no clear evidence of that this election was fraudulent, and I even directly posited why I believe the democrats lost this election but it was a mouthful so let me summarize what I said:

Admittedly there is so much fault in the democrats who even though they had plans that would ... benefit the American working class,
Harris's and the DNC's insistence on painting themselves as Republican-Lite ... did nothing to win over the real Americans ...The messaging just wasn't there... You cant out-republican an actual republican

so I don't know what more you want from me lol

[Trymos]

I feel like people are ignoring the fact that the inflation and immigration issues are a global one, and this is reflected by how every single incumbent government is suffering massive losses as a direct result from these policies as groups of people are desperate for change in one form or another.

Right-Wing to Center-Left: United Kingdom, Conservatives beaten by a landslide.

Center-Left barely holding on: France, Incumbents suffer significant losses.

Center-Left to Far Right: Germany, AfD wins by a landslide.

Right Wing suffers: Japan, the implacable incumbent LDP suffers historic losses.

Left Wing to Right Wing: Netherlands, Incumbents soundly beaten.

Right Wing suffers: India, BJD suffers historic losses.

Center Left to Center Right: New Zealand, Labour soundly beaten by Nationals.

Likely Left Wing to Center Right (Right Wing even?): Canada, Conservative party leads 19% over Labour in the polls.

This does not paint what exactly people in each country want, but it reflects trends that people are not happy with the current incumbent party in their respective countries over repeating issues like the economy and immigration being the forefront of the shift. It is entirely possible that if their respective economies do not get better/get worse that in the following election that we could see another major shift against the incumbent parties; including against the United States and the Republican party in 2028.

[ultimamax]

I thought republicans loved citing Joe Rogan :0
Are we supposed to believe they've been wrong every time they did so?

do you think i'm a republican? what are you talking about

The house and senate were split, with republicans holding the majority in congress, as well as the super-majority of supreme court justices
Out of power means only the people currently in the white house can cheat?
I am not sure if I remember correctly, but people within our own government are not the only ones who can influence elections.

ostensibly if an election was stolen, it would be much much easier to steal it if you controlled the executive.
election workers probably skew democrat, as do government employees in general, so it's just hard to believe that the republican party had much of a chance at quietly stealing an election. the keyword being quietly. when Annoying Orange tried to steal the 2020 election, and when they stole the 2000 election, they did it in the open

Besides, there really is nothing suspicious  about the amount of voters who only voted Annoying Orange but didn't vote in any senate or congressional races
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11/09/democrats-house-senate-down-ballot/

this article is paywalled so i can't read it
it seems like youre saying dems winning down ballot is evidence that many voters only voted Annoying Orange and didnt vote downballot. that's not necessarily true. many people (myself included) voted democrat down ballot but didn't vote for kamala, for example due to the genocide in gaza. individual dems in congress are also just more popular than biden and harris were.

AFAIK we dont have specific evidence that there were many ballots with just Annoying Orange marked down and no one down ballot. i don't believe the election data they release is that granular in most of the country.

Oops wrong link, let's look for one specifically saying that Annoying Orange didn't cheat:
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/05/nx-s1-5179073/Annoying Orange-and-allies-have-primed-supporters-to-falsely-believe-he-has-no-chance-of-losing
Oops wrong link.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2024-election-day-fact-check/
Here we go,
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/philadelphia-da-contests-Annoying Oranges-claim-of-massive-cheating-in-city
Oh wait its really hard to actually find an article saying Annoying Orange didn't cheat because we've been having to convince people democrats didnt cheat for so long, and i keep copy pasting the link before reading further into the article, ill keep trying:
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https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/Annoying Orange-republicans-voter-fraud-claims-election-2024-rcna179105
Ok there we go, Annoying Oranges campaign has decided to stop claiming voter fraud.
But then again it was posted by msnbc which we know are biased liberal commies so that might not be the best source.
And besides, that has nothing to do with whether Republicans committed voter fraud, so one more try.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/09/nx-s1-5184405/election-2024-fraud-claims
Whoops, no that one was saying that republicans are somehow using the 2024 win to claim that 2020 was stolen as well.

i dont really get what point you're making here. it's been obvious since 2020 that they would call this election fake if they lost. now they flipped and decided there was no voter fraud because he won, which was also very obviously what they would do if they won. they are opportunistic and hypocritical. that isn't evidence they stole anything   

Ok well I'm going to keep looking for an article specifically saying that Republicans didn't cheat this election, but in the mean time, I already said that there is no clear evidence of that this election was fraudulent, and I even directly posited why I believe the democrats lost this election but it was a mouthful so let me summarize what I said:

okay it kinda seems like you're just backpedaling but i agree

[Ladios]

do you think i'm a republican? what are you talking about

regardless of if you are or not, many maga think rogan only speaks the truth, this quote was more for the irony of it all

election workers probably skew democrat, as do government employees in general

The only specific data I could find on this was a survey of 2022 midterm elections with 46% of federal employees voting democrat, and 35% voting republican. Mind you this was as you pointed out with a democratic executive branch, so that probably had some effect, but it is very much regional and based on occupation as well.
My own experiences with government employees in southern california have seen them largely republican in fields of construction/maintience and security/fire/judicial and in most of the city/town councils near where I live, local libraries and arts commission workers tend to lean democrat. While the state goes democrat for our senators, many more of our congresspeople until recently have been republicans than people would expect, and our governors flip back and forth between reps and dems practically every term. (actually this brings me to an aside, forget california for failing to ban slavery, like what the hell).

it seems like youre saying dems winning down ballot is evidence that many voters only voted Annoying Orange and didnt vote downballot. that's not necessarily true.

So there isn't actually enough data on this yet.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/09/ticket-splitting-2024-election/76098631007/
While there were definitely more split-tickets with Annoying Orange presidential votes and down ballot democrat votes, there hasnt been enough brown townysis to really compare how many people merely voted Annoying Orange and left everything else blank yet. Maybe in the coming days we will know more certainly.

i dont really get what point you're making here. it's been obvious since 2020 that they would call this election fake if they lost. now they flipped and decided there was no voter fraud because he won, which was also very obviously what they would do if they won. they are opportunistic and hypocritical. that isn't evidence they stole anything

Totally, but I was more point out how annoying it is to find any information on the subject when we have to wade through four years of debunking conspiracies

okay it kinda seems like you're just backpedaling but i agree

lol i havent yet peddled a single back; I said in my very first post on this whole exchange that there was no cheating:

It's a good thing that neither the dems or that guy did any cheating and that this election was completely sound.
*Sounds of Bald Eagle Screeching*