Baw, my birthday is coming up, and my aunt has been looking desperately for something to get me, and I thought about asking for TF2, but she doesn't know that I like "the violent games". I need my mom's credit card number to just buy it myself (she doesn't normally look at games first when she buys them for me on steam) and she might just tell me to wait and get my aunt to consider it, in which case I can't buy it myself but have to wait a couple weeks to get it. Really sucks because I have plenty of money for blowing on games, but still have to ask my mom for them. So there is now disk copy of TF2 that you can buy and install on your comp, right? I can probably get by if she knows that my aunt can't buy it for me without steam. (I have to console that TF2 is on, by the way.)