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General Discussion / Re: last words anyone
« on: March 23, 2023, 06:37:05 PM »
Fellas, it's almost time to jack off and leave

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I'm gonna ask you to look a bit into Annoying Orange prior to 2015 because he isn't exactly the stand up guy you think he is.

But while we're on the subject of lying why don't you go look at your media sources and tell me how many times they ask a question only to immediately respond by answering it themselves, that's like the most basic form of propaganda there is.

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They have a track record of lying. proven in a court of law they have lied to get to their impeachment trials.

Fox News isn't ideal, but they're way better than the other leftist blogposts that ignorant people consider news.
lol

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There's not a damn thing they claim that I'm willing to believe anymore. 
They've lied, and lied, and lied, and lied.

They're terrified of Annoying Orange.
They're willing to lie to go after Annoying Orange.

This has been done before, multiple times. And it always came out, someone among them lied or manipulated
emails and evidence to get to their impeachment hearings. Then they couldn't actually come up with anything against him.

As it becomes clear that their policies aren't working and under fair and standard circumstances they will lose, they're going to
do basically anything to maintain their power.
Dude you need to try weed or something.

Also lol at calling it lies immediately after posting a Fox News link, you know those guys who posted a bad photoshop a couple days ago they claimed to be real.

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I dunno man, if he sold nuclear secrets to an enemy country that's kinda a biggie.

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"If you're innocent why are you taking the fifth amendment?" Donald J. Annoying Orange

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why is everyone mad at DT getting raided who the forget cares
Because the venn diagram for people that think Donald Annoying Orange won the election and the people angry at this is just a circle.

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Such an abuse of power for the FBI not to ask permission to search for a potential security risk.

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With this logic we should ignore the first amendment and the thirteenth since their views are clearly outdated, and modern handicaps like yourself know better
Ah yes the ole "I have no counter so I'll throw an insult" approach. You know what both of those amendments have that 2A doesn't? Pretty explicit detail as to what they apply to and who they apply to.

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If you say it doesn't allow "normal people" once again I swear I'm gonna have an aneurysm. SCOTUS has confirmed that it's not the power of the Militia to bare arms, its of the people. It's also ya know, written that it is.
Because that's literally what the constitution says, at the time of writing almost every single gun owner would have been a part of a militia. SCOTUS may have made that ruling but as we've seen that can be overruled at literally any time.

Also seeing as you seem to be all up in arms about grammar I'm going to inform you that you used the wrong bear there. I'd also like to inform you that the commas in the 2nd amendment are used to indicate a non-restrictive clause meaning that it doesn't override the original idea (even if SCOTUS thinks it does).

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Not sure why you guys are comparing the US to European countries that never had firearms introduced to the civilians outside of under/over bullstuff guns and .22s.
I mean at the time of the revolution it was about as common as in America, which technically didn't have civilian guns either because most were owned by militia members

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They should revisit the constitution, are they going to? No. It doesn't make politicians and lobbyists any money to look into it.
Of course the manufacturing of the 1718s can't produce to the same amount as a loving modern AR15 plant.
Now if you want to talk how the 2A is written, you want to base that off how the original Comma was? Or the current day? A comma isn't always for a list or even to fully connect two thoughts it can still be used (like it was) as a period. And it does guarantee the people gun ownership, that's what arms are, that's why they allowed people to own warships and cannons. You really think a group of people who fought their own war for independence, and stopped allowing armies to reside in the people's homes wanted those people to be defenseless against any tyrannical group? How is acknowledging the right of the people taking it out of context, the 2a is both allowing militias to operate and function and allowing the individual citizenry to have their own arms.
Is that what the founding fathers intended? Probably, but it's not like we can ask them. Heck if we could ask them it would give a huge amount of insight into their view on whether or not someone should be able to own an MBT, Fighter Jet, or Nuclear ICBM. The funny thing about the word "Arms" is that it just means a weapon, its definition as explicitly firearms is quite far down the list in usage because we kind of already have a word for that. Also no, the 2A doesn't guarantee normal people anything they were just allowed to use them (although definitely for the reasons you stated).

If they wanted to explicitly state it as a right of the people and not a militia they could have very easily wrote it differently, it's almost like they're flawed people or something.

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You know they had automatics in the 1700s right? You know they had ways to quickly load muskets as well? Oh wait, you don't know anything about historical guns or the constitution do you?
Yes I know those existed but you're lying to yourself if you're trying to tell me stuff like the puckle gun was a widespread weapon, they did not have the industrial capacity to produce those weapons that we do today. It honestly baffles me how you can look at those guns and go "yup this is just like my AR-15", there's a very clear difference in stopping power between guns of then and guns of now.

While we're on the topic of knowing about the constitution why don't we give it a read. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.". Taken in it's most blunt form you could theoretically restrict weapon ownership only to militias and have it be reduced to something like swords without technically violating this. At no point does it guarantee the right to gun ownership and the part where it says "right of the people" is taken out of context if ignoring the parts preceding it.

Speaking of constitution here's a fun fact for ya, it was originally proposed that it should be reviewed and altered every 19-20 years but that didn't exactly happen. We also have the oldest unaltered constitution currently in use.

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I think the state power should actually matter, it's almost like that's in the constitution or something. But oh well give the fed more power over your stuff and then cry when politicians refuse to do what you voted them in to do.
Maybe someday they'll codify half the stuff that they promised.
Yes, we should listen to a vague statement in a document made almost 250 years ago when most firearms could only fire one ball with an excruciatingly long reload.

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consequentially, yall are both wrong

depending on how the laws are implemented, its pretty easy to carry a gun from one state to another. states that have successful gun laws are the ones that are surrounded with other states with successful gun laws and vice versa.

if you really want to have an accurate idea of what federal gun laws would do, look at europe. its not as easy to get a gun across their border as it is to go from texas to new york, so comparing across states for point of sale gun laws is pretty moot.

this is not to say that gun laws in certain states dont have an effect, some do, like restricted open carry or something that police can easily catch on.

i find it incredibly stupid that yall are always stuff slinging at whos state is the stufftiest because of local laws like shut the forget up it doesn't matter in the case that theres like 4 guns per human in the USA
Oh no this is the exact reason why I think this should be a federal thing and not state thing

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