The idea of Heaven: is it really that great?

[KadeBL_ID12958]

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That'd be cool to be a plastic figure, not for all eternity though.

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[Roknrollwill]

Please, explain what heaven is supposed to be like.

Yet this is a question you answer yourself, with knowledge and understanding of this specific religion of course.

2. Hell is a physical impossibility, and logically flawed. It simply cannot exist.

This could be up for discussion, but I simply don't trust you with my side of the argument

[yuki]

This could be up for discussion, but I simply don't trust you with my side of the argument

Not really, it's impossible, you don't even need to be a scientist to figure this stuff out:
1. Pain are signals sent from nervous receptors to the brain (laymans description)
2. Hell is after life, you don't have a body
3. No body, no nervous system, no pain

You could argue the "soul" has its own hypothetical simulation of pain but that's sketchy at best.

Logically:
1. God is all-knowing, all-forgiving, all-loving
2. God creates a place of anguish and suffering and eternal torture
3. What?

Here, you can pick: If god is benevolent, there is no such thing as hell**. If god is Malevolent, then why worship it? Ethically, it'd be more proper to worship Lucifer in that case because Lucifer hasn't killed anyone, where god has massacred civilizations.

**Even as human beings, we do not commit anyone to torture, we typically dedicate their incarceration to their rehabilitation. Most sociopaths are admitted to an asylum. Even the death penalty is made painless, it was designed to remove someone who is extremely dangerous and otherwise not curable.

If one truly fears being burned, drowned, ior whatever, that's what they'll be doing for the rest of their stay in Hell, or so that's how I think it should work.

That's a dumb method.
In the Inferno, your punishment in Hell is your most grievous sin on Earth. In the bible, it's not actually described anywhere.

[Nick4t]

god kills babies

 

[Zoslis]

I say that religion is what you make of it. When you die, if you think that you'll end up with a million virgins, so be it. If you die and think you'll be in a nice, floating cloud, where happiness runs rampant so be it.

But then again, Christians shouldn't believe in hell.

The Catholic Church invented it to scare people into doing what they deemed good. Before the Catholic Church came along, it was thought that you sat in purgatory which was a pit of fire, and burned for your sins for an allotted amount of time, and then you go to Heaven.

There are some beliefs like that, but instead of a firepit, it's more of a mine where you work and work and work, and pay off your lifedebt.

[Joker Card]

I don't beleive its true, but if Reincarnation WAS rue, that would be the stuff. you could be loving the next Riddler, die, and then redo it.

[IsaacKronenFaust]

you could be loving the next Riddler, die, and then redo it.

Why would I wanna forget the next Riddler?

[Solid]

I say that religion is what you make of it. When you die, if you think that you'll end up with a million virgins, so be it. If you die and think you'll be in a nice, floating cloud, where happiness runs rampant so be it.

But then again, Christians shouldn't believe in hell.

The Catholic Church invented it to scare people into doing what they deemed good. Before the Catholic Church came along, it was thought that you sat in purgatory which was a pit of fire, and burned for your sins for an allotted amount of time, and then you go to Heaven.

There are some beliefs like that, but instead of a firepit, it's more of a mine where you work and work and work, and pay off your lifedebt.

The Catholic church came up with purgatory, not hell. They let people give them money so instead of going to hell they could go to purgatory to pay for their sins.

[skelolego229]

reincarnation would be the stuff from an athestic view


I mean I could wake up as the progenitor for world union, or advanced space travel


or live my days out as a wolf, hunting old decrepit moose

[yuki]

reincarnation would be the stuff from an athestic view


I mean I could wake up as the progenitor for world union, or advanced space travel


or live my days out as a wolf, hunting old decrepit moose

Happiness is relative.

Why would I wanna forget the next Riddler?

It wouldn't be "you".

Reincarnation is also something that is almost fundamentally impossible. Even if it happened, you can't be held accountable for what you did in your past life because it wasn't you that did it and you have no memory of doing it (because you didn't do it). Even if your soul is recycled, it wouldn't make a difference.

god kills babies

 

and if they're unbaptized he sends them to Hell. True story br0

[Rainbow]

Reincarnation sounds interesting though, I LOVE the idea of being a cat or a dog, or some kind of insect in the next life. The goal for you is then: live, enjoy.

furry

[TheScout]

You get episode 3 in heaven.
(Insert forget Yeah montage here)

[ultimamax]

I think heaven is your own little sliver of the galaxy/universe where you can make anything bloom, while still having kickass adventures. And if heaven is like they say, I'd just sleep all day in my house and lucid dream. :)
If heaven was a forever lucid dream that'd be loving badass. Of course, there should be some sort of plaza where you can meet other people in heaven and see your family down on earth. And who knows? It's been a long time since the bible was conceived, maybe the rules changed up there.

[Riot]

 Actually to answer this question is simple, and yes Bisjac was right.

 When you die you wonder to the gates of Heaven. What happens next is your soul will be released and will go through the door keyhole. All of your loveual desires, and everything else dies with the body. So you walk with Jebus 4evor.
 If not you fall through the clouds into hell.

 I don't remember where I read this.

[Julius The 1st]

2. Hell is a physical impossibility, and logically flawed. It simply cannot exist.

In the Inferno, your punishment in Hell is your most grievous sin on Earth. In the bible, it's not actually described anywhere.

Contradiction?