Author Topic: Mack rambles on about "Inception" and the concept of Lucid Dreaming  (Read 8280 times)

Inception, to put simply, is not possible. Seeing as we currently cannot connect dreams together with two people being able to interact with eachother

At the risk of sounding crazy, this concept is called "mutual dreaming" or "shared dreaming" and I have attempted and achieved to some level a shared dream. While its not scientifically accepted, two others I knew who I saw in the dream recalled it before I did. I will elaborate if you are interested.

To lucid dream, you must first be able to remember the dreams you have or else you will never know if your dreams are lucid or not.

Dream recall does not prevent lucidity, its just better to ensure you have good enough recall to be able to remember most of your dreams so no efforts go to waste.


Once you can remember your dreams, becoming aware is the second most difficult part. Steps like counting footsteps as you dream or remembering a song lyric and repeating it over and over again in your head will aid in causing you to become aware.

"Reality checks" or "RCs" are important, but the ones you have listed are hideously poor. More common RCs are counting your fingers (an uneven number of fingers is an obvious sign) looking at an brown townog clock twice or a digital clock once (skipping of time or morphed imagery are common with these) or even simpler, plugging your nose and trying to breathe. RCing must be practiced throughout the day, so when you are asleep you do it naturally.

Once you are aware you are dreaming, your subconcious has already constructed the world around you in the dream, and you will be able to change and modify anything you want. For example, the scene in Inception where Ariadne takes half of Paris and puts it face-down on top of the other half, is completely possible.

Very truce, I saw the trailer of the movie and have accomplished the face-down thing. Except in my dream I watched the earth fold over and then I jumped into the flipped version and I got sucked into a parallel world LOL.

The last step is being able to stay sleeping. a "Kick" is simply either A) when something occurs physically outside the dream in real life such as tipping over in a chair, falling into water or being slapped in the face, or B) inside the dream, when you are killed, fall down a huge distance, or something like that.

Again these are crap examples hurp. To stay in a dream or to make it more "vivid" you should either touch your own arms or hands (the sensation really hits you in the face and sinks you into the dream) or spin around. Falling or death generally results in waking up.

Waking up may accidentally occur when you're in a dream because you've done something wrong and accidentally "Kicked" yourself (died, derp). After huge amounts of self training with lucid dreaming you should naturally be able to stay in the dream without kicking yourself.

Even the most experienced wake up. You can only stretch a dream so long before your sleep or REM cycle dictates otherwise. If you do wake up, train yourself to NOT MOVE so you can fall back into the dream. Your brain won't realize you are awake and it can take a matter of seconds to be asleep again. This technique is sometimes referred to as "DEILD" which stands for dream exit induced lucid dream.

If you manage to start lucid dreaming I highly suggest you stay on the first layer, and only go to a second layer if you're heavily trained.

Are you kidding me? False awakenings are all part of the experience, nobody goes "insane". You'll just wake up with intrigue, there is no danger.

I myself have been lucid dreaming randomly for life, but only since late 2008 have been practicing it as a hobby. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams, I get a few each week if I can be bothered (sometimes you are just so tired its not worth keeping mentally prepared). I recommend you keep a dream journal and write down dreams in diary format, helps your recall.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 01:38:14 AM by Sheath »

Haha I didn't think anybody would actually look. No magic tubes though.... or is there?

Nah, the machine is just sitting there and opened and turned on for no reason whatsoever. No tubes at all. [/sarcasm]

Nah, the machine is just sitting there and opened and turned on for no reason whatsoever. No tubes at all. [/sarcasm]

At the risk of sounding crazy, this concept is called "mutual dreaming" or "shared dreaming" and I have attempted and achieved to some level a shared dream. While its not scientifically accepted, two others I knew who I saw in the dream recalled it before I did. I will elaborate if you are interested.

Dream recall does not prevent lucidity, its just better to ensure you have good enough recall to be able to remember most of your dreams so no efforts go to waste.


"Reality checks" or "RCs" are important, but the ones you have listed are hideously poor. More common RCs are counting your fingers (an uneven number of fingers is an obvious sign) looking at an brown townog clock twice or a digital clock once (skipping of time or morphed imagery are common with these) or even simpler, plugging your nose and trying to breathe. RCing must be practiced throughout the day, so when you are asleep you do it naturally.

Very truce, I saw the trailer of the movie and have accomplished the face-down thing. Except in my dream I watched the earth fold over and then I jumped into the flipped version and I got sucked into a parallel world LOL.

Again these are crap examples hurp. To stay in a dream or to make it more "vivid" you should either touch your own arms or hands (the sensation really hits you in the face and sinks you into the dream) or spin around. Falling or death generally results in waking up.

Even the most experienced wake up. You can only stretch a dream so long before your sleep or REM cycle dictates otherwise. If you do wake up, train yourself to NOT MOVE so you can fall back into the dream. Your brain won't realize you are awake and it can take a matter of seconds to be asleep again. This technique is sometimes referred to as "DEILD" which stands for dream exit induced lucid dream.

Are you kidding me? False awakenings are all part of the experience, nobody goes "insane". You'll just wake up with intrigue, there is no danger.

I myself have been lucid dreaming randomly for life, but only since late 2008 have been practicing it as a hobby. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams, I get a few each week if I can be bothered (sometimes you are just so tired its not worth keeping mentally prepared). I recommend you keep a dream journal and write down dreams in diary format, helps your recall.

Thank you for elaborating, I was simply too lazy to post all of the info in extensive detail. I will quote this on the topic.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 01:41:49 AM by MackTheHunter »

Once i was in a car in a dream, and was like wait, there is no driver. I realized it was a dread, flew the car for a second, and then woke up into another dream, only to be woken up by my cat. I almost killed it. Instead a pet it and cried :C



Also, about you guys wanting to go into limbo, you're stupid.

You'll start losing track of what is real life and what isn't. Then you'll go insane. Then when (and if) you wake up, you'll think killing yourself will bring you back to the "real world" (at least, what you now think is the real world).

Incorrect.


The one dude went into the "Safe" that her mind created, and planted the idea that Limbo was real life.

The guy did not go insane, but the woman did

I've lucid dreamed once.
but i've been unable to do it scince.

A cool thing to do is to reality check whenever you wake up. If you find yourself in bed in the morning or night, count your fingers. Are they uneven or deformed?  Then you haven't woken up (false awakening as I said earlier). This is a common and extremely exciting way to get lucid, because you can just get out of bed and forget around with the 'virtual world' your mind has created.

Oh, Mack, if you want any advice I can give you detailed help. Some of the stuff I've done in the lucid world... I could spend hours recalling dreams ha ha. You've got a forgetload of fun ahead. Just keep your excitement toned down, newb mistake 101 is getting over-excited, becoming lucid, and waking up because of the excitement. So frustrating for beginners. :c

I don't understand how people remember dreams. I immediately forget them, almost like I didn't have one.

I don't understand how people remember dreams. I immediately forget them, almost like I didn't have one.

Everyone has dreams, we forget a lot of them. If you try hard to remember them, your brain puts more priority on keeping the information in.

If you move when you wake up you have less chance to recall dreams, its proven. Don't move in the morning and recall what you can.

Layer 3 and Limbo sound terrifying. Spending thousands of perceived years in a dream is frightening in itself.

A cool thing to do is to reality check whenever you wake up. If you find yourself in bed in the morning or night, count your fingers. Are they uneven or deformed?  Then you haven't woken up (false awakening as I said earlier). This is a common and extremely exciting way to get lucid, because you can just get out of bed and forget around with the 'virtual world' your mind has created.

Oh, Mack, if you want any advice I can give you detailed help. Some of the stuff I've done in the lucid world... I could spend hours recalling dreams ha ha. You've got a forgetload of fun ahead. Just keep your excitement toned down, newb mistake 101 is getting over-excited, becoming lucid, and waking up because of the excitement. So frustrating for beginners. :c

Please tell me you have Steam or MSN.

I've also heard that eating before bed can cause dreams, which increases the likelihood of lucid dreams...

And am I the only one who thinks it can be creepier having a lucid nightmare than a regular one?

I've also heard that eating before bed can cause dreams, which increases the likelihood of lucid dreams...

And am I the only one who thinks it can be creepier having a lucid nightmare than a regular one?

I don't think you could have a lucid nightmare, since you control the dream.

I don't think you could have a lucid nightmare, since you control the dream.

Some people intentionally create nightmares while lucid... I hear its hard.

Cherries are good to eat before sleep for dreaming, they have melatonin.

@Mack:  I have Steam. Best bet is to just ask me stuff using PM. I'll be bouncing around your server for a while if your bored.