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[Pixel]

Define what a girl is then. There are plenty of women born with an XY chromosome defect that would biologically make them male. But they live and present themselves as female. Would you refer to them as men, then, because it is an undeniable fact that they are? What of those who are born interlove? Do you require female loveual organs to be a woman? So then what becomes of the women who have hysterectomies, or other defects with their ovaries/uterus/whatever that causes them to be removed? Does it just take a vagina and breasts to be a woman?

You're perfectly allowed to think that love and gender are black and white, but they really aren't.

I would refer to them as whatever they identify as, but they are not a NORMAL boy or girl. You were not a NORMAL girl and you lied about it, you have no right to be insulting him for lying.

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[tails]

Don't make dusty leave again please, She only just came back.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

i go off the organs a person is born with
if you want to act extremely feminine, go nuts. if you like dudes, have fun. but when people actually try to make themselves a girl, that just seems like way too much too me.

[shyGriff]

i go off the organs a person is born with
if you want to act extremely feminine, go nuts. if you like dudes, have fun. but when people actually try to make themselves a girl, that just seems like way too much too me.

i'm interested about your thoughts on otherkin, in that case

[Dusty12]

I disagree. I never told a lie. I said I was a girl, and I am. Unless, of course, one's opinion of me radically changes the moment you find out I don't have biological equipment. If that is the case I wouldn't care to be involved with that person anyway.

i go off the organs a person is born with
if you want to act extremely feminine, go nuts. if you like dudes, have fun. but when people actually try to make themselves a girl, that just seems like way too much too me.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

what's there to be sorry about
quit acting like you're so superior, cripes

[Pixel]

I disagree. I never told a lie. I said I was a girl, and I am. Unless, of course, one's opinion of me radically changes the moment you find out I don't have biological equipment. If that is the case I wouldn't care to be involved with that person anyway.
I'm sorry you feel that way.

Well then youre wrong, you shouldnt run around telling everyone youre a normal girl when youre actually a transgender or whatever the term is.

[shyGriff]

* shyGriff facepawlms

[tails]

Well then youre wrong, you shouldnt run around telling everyone youre a normal girl when youre actually a transgender or whatever the term is.

Yeah just outright saying it sure would have made it different huh. How about that stocking person?

[Dusty12]

what's there to be sorry about
quit acting like you're so superior, cripes

I'm not. I'm genuinely sorry that you think like that. It's very narrowminded. There are a lot of medical cases that would put that logic to rest, like the biologically male babies born with a testosterone mutation that causes them to develop as girls. Or like I mentioned, interlove people. They have both, so what do you go by? How they identify? Then why can't you do that for everyone else? Thinking like 'this person wants to be a guy so they're having surgery to be one' is wrong. He's already a man - he simply wants to bring his physical appearance in line with that.

Well then youre wrong, you shouldnt run around telling everyone youre a normal girl when youre actually a transgender or whatever the term is.

actually a transgender
I laughed.
No, I'm a girl. Transwoman is a label, and a label I completely despise. Besides, I never told anyone I was a 'normal' girl, if you want to go down this path. People assumed, and rightfully so, considering there is no difference.

[lolzorz mcgee]

Well then youre wrong, you shouldnt run around telling everyone youre a normal girl when youre actually a transgender or whatever the term is.

People like you are the reason God does not talk to us anymore kidding.

But, why in the world would you ever care about the difference between a biological girl and an MTF?  Both look and sound the same, given enough time on hormones.  There's no difference besides the amount of organs they have.

what's there to be sorry about
quit acting like you're so superior, cripes

[Lalam24]

Well then youre wrong, you shouldnt run around telling everyone youre a normal girl when youre actually a transgender or whatever the term is.

I don't find changing your gender to be all that appropriate, either, but what difference does it make?  Everyone does stuff others disagree with, boo hoo.  Unless it's harming others, stop making such a big deal out of it.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

jesus
you really are acting desperately superior

[Dusty12]

I'm sorry if that's how it seems, I'm really not purposely trying to sound holier-than-thou.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

your tone tends to come across as really aggressive (which may be my fault since this is text and that may be just my reading of it)
i suppose it just comes down to word choice

but anyway, you can't really tell others that a normal girl, regardless of how you see yourself now, because by no means are you a normal girl
allowing myself to classify you as a girl ~of sorts~ for the sake of debate, i would still not find myself able to consider you as an actual girl knowing your biological origins
that's probably mostly due to my heavily scientifically-oriented way of thinking, but nonetheless i know that a fair amount of people would have more or less the same feelings