Banning 1000+??????

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In what part of the agreement before installation states no abuse? Or after installation, or in the download or buy now portion of the site? NOTHING, NOWHERE! Forum rules do not, nor would apply to the multi-player aspect of the game.

That and EULA is usually, as you can read, is just a bunch of legal, copyright junk. And I have not read any Terms of Service, or anything in regards to the multi-player aspect of the game.

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« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 07:05:38 PM by ·•{ Awoken } »

You do realize Kaphix only said that to Jsk because he wanted to feel like he won. My 3 year old cousin does this...

I would have to say it does count as racism even by your definition.


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    * or racialism is a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another. Racism may be expressed individually and consciously, through explicit thoughts, feelings, or acts, or socially and unconsciously, through institutions that promote inequality between races.

Race is not just about "skin color". It can be based upon a number of identifying factors...including #'s themselves.

ID owners below 1000 seem to express the tribal view that those of an ID number above 1000 are inferior to them.

However our choice of diction is beside the point.

What I think should be made clear, however, is that Badspot said he would ban the offending servers if they became a problem. (IE. many servers with same descriminatory policies). Your argument that "one server doesnt matter" is not relevant to what BS said and what I supported. We're talking about large numbers of servers, at a prohibitive level severeing the playerbase.

Just as Steam has the VAC system to help safeguard servers, BS should have the same priveleges in regards to protecting the interests of himself and his customers.

I'll let you call it being tribal on Kaphix banning those over 1000+, but only if it makes you happy.


Always, with that aside, I'm still curious on what Badspot has to say, or someone educated enough can respond to my original question in regards to the legality of being able to ban a server from advertising.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 09:38:47 PM by ·•{ Awoken } »

Yes, he can legally block people from having their servers listed on his master server.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 09:48:07 PM by Wedge »

He can, but should he is the question.

And actually he needs a provisional reason for it too.

Unless theres a loophole I missed.

Eventualy all ID's will be above 1000 so just leave people like kaphix alone and they'll be playing by themselves.

"ID Racism"?, as Spation said, It's discrimination, NOT RACISM, Google that dam word for Christ sake.
Thank god someone read what I put.

I think that this argument is actually going nowhere, everyone are making good points, but nothing has actually been done about it.

I think we all now realise it is discrimination not racism. That's a step forward.

I think we all now realise it is discrimination not racism. That's a step forward.

No.

Its racism because a large group of people (under 1000's) believe they are superior to another group of people (above 1000's) and seek to act upon it.

IMO, discrimination is based more on actions and such than on what particular group they belong to.

Besides, what does it matter if its discrimination or racism? The fact is that Badspot should, and likely will, defend those that bought his game from the early adopters if they pose a problem.

Now your being "ID tribal" because you're saying people with ID's below 1000 are a different race to people with ID's below 1000.

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! IT IS NOT RACISM BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE/SKIN COLOUR/RELIGION/ETHNIC BACKGROUND! loving READ YOU DUMB ASS! IT IS DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE IT IS LIKE RACISM, BUT NOT TO DO WITH RACE!