Author Topic: Blockland mod market system?  (Read 15602 times)

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Most garbage men don't go to work and say "I sure do love collecting peoples trash, I'm going to go and enjoy my self today! Screw money!". They need a serious motivation to go collect garbage.

Thats the motivation around here that creates quality addons - that someone can put their heart into works and produce something very special.

On the other hand.. sure. Money in for mod developers would technically mean we get more stuff and more add-ons, but I think most can agree that what we would get out of that would not be as good as the free stuff because they're doing it for the money, not like the people who make their addons without wanting to even earn a single penny for their works.

We would have more terrible people making the quality content, creating content for the money, not for the enjoyment. Is that what you want?

How would you even DRM this to protect the VIP Add-Ons? Oh god, the DRM required to enforce paid add-ons and what the like. We already have terrible DRM from Ewwwwwwbisoft, we dont need Badspot to introduce another.

SpreadsPlague, I think the dumbest thing you said was about badspot making a game because he was poor. Guess what, people make things for money, often times because they have to. (And yes, people make things for free as well) Whether or not he wanted to make Blockland( which I'm sure he did), he needs a way to support him self and had to make money off of blockland (Unless of course there are unseen variables such as him having a girlfriend, family, wife, who ever that could support him...)

1) I never said Badspot was poor, your reading comprehension is seriously lacking (along with many other things)

2) Badspot uses games as a form of income because he is an indie developer. That is what indie developers do. That is his job. It's fairly clear to see that he has chosen he wants to use his life to make games. Income is not a direct result of wanting to make games, it's a side effect. Money is not the motivation here. If Badspot wanted to make money he'd make the next Call of Duty or Farmville. Badspot knows that Blockland is not a billion dollar franchise (as much as it would be nice if it was).

3) The last part is making a seriously harsh assumption of character, are you saying he would be happy to mooch off of family/wife/girlfriend? starfish.

Most garbage men don't go to work and say "I sure do love collecting peoples trash, I'm going to go and enjoy my self today! Screw money!". They need a serious motivation to go collect garbage.

Garbage men go to work every day because they either use it as a secondary job, or they have no education good enough to grant them a better career. Garbage men are desperate for money. Badspot is not. If Badspot was desperate for money he would be a garbage man on the side. Comparing an indie developer to a garbage man is stupid, sorry.

I think what you don't understand is, we would still have free addons but we would also have addons people would make for the sole purpose of making money, that we would never get if people weren't going to make $$ off of.

Christ, you're dense. THAT'S THE ISSUE. When people start making things for the SOLE PURPOSE of making money, that's when it all goes to stuff! Why would they spend time and effort on one nice thing when they can spend an evening making 50 pieces of stuff to rake in the dough?

I made 10 cents on the steam market!

If the game maker chose to allow mod makers to sell their products, people would still be able to do it for free if they chose. Most people who make mods as a hobby sill would.

But since for the most part people have to work for a living, there is a real limit to how much time and effort they can put into it. Most skilled, professional developers who love making mods don't have all that much time to put into making mods. But if someone can charge a bit for making high quality mods he can put a lot more time and effort into doing so. This doesn't mean that he is just doing it for the money. Someone doing this just for the money probably wouldn't make quality mods anyway. He would still be doing something he loves to do, but would be able to put a lot more time into it, because now he is making part of his living by doing so.

The game maker benefits also, because his game becomes more popular because of the high quality mods.

Getting paid doesn't make you any more professional. The only truly professional programmers I can think of that we have here are Badspot and kompressor. There may be a handful more, but I'm sure they wouldn't care too much to get paid over Blockland. They likely already have real jobs.

How would more good mods make the game more popular? The only people who can use the mods to begin with are people who already own the game. Unless someone comes up with the next DayZ for Blockland I don't think that's a very good selling point.

Make a generic weapon that was seen in the next Call of Duty game and watch the cash flow in.

This has to be the worst idea i've seen in this section. I've seen plenty, but this takes the cake. :V

Getting paid doesn't make you any more professional. The only truly professional programmers I can think of that we have here are Badspot and kompressor. There may be a handful more, but I'm sure they wouldn't care too much to get paid over Blockland. They likely already have real jobs.

How would more good mods make the game more popular? The only people who can use the mods to begin with are people who already own the game. Unless someone comes up with the next DayZ for Blockland I don't think that's a very good selling point.

Well if you think about it, the mods we have now are what retain people in. I would have stopped playing Blockland ages ago if it wasn't for addons, such as TDM and Slayer. Also, mods will attract people because they can say, "hey look what this game has! That intrests me!". For some one to come up with the next DayZ mod for Blockland, I can see money as being a major contributer to its development.

No one likes paying twice. Buying a game is enough. Honestly even DLC with popular games is pushing it.

No one likes paying twice. Buying a game is enough. Honestly even DLC with popular games is pushing it.

Thats true, it always ticks me off when I see DLC, especially on steam. But for me, my irritation is diffrent when its an outside game developer. It would annoy me if Badspot added "pay to get this stuff", but again, if its a private individual seperate from him then I'm ok, and I definetly encourage it.

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But if someone can charge a bit for making high quality mods he can put a lot more time and effort into doing so.

Im just gonna make System_Turd.zip and charge $40,000 for it.

Because everything that has a price tag is QUALITY. Am I rite?

Im just gonna make System_Turd.zip and charge $40,000 for it.

Because everything that has a price tag is QUALITY. Am I rite?

I never said that.

Why would addons and servers be abandonned? That doesn't make any sense. By the way, right now I could charge players to join my server, but I don't because no one would join, unless I had a really neat mod that people wanted to play.
If you ever do this someone will be for good, remake the mod, and let others get it for free.

Your theory doesn't work.

If you ever do this someone will be for good, remake the mod, and let others get it for free.

Your theory doesn't work.

Yes you can remake software, just like some one could remake Microsoft windows. There isn't any serious remakes of it, now is there?

Ok so let me see this, you called addon makers on here "Mediocore" for making "Mediocore mods", then you say "No offense"?

You know it is offensive anyways to tell anyone that their addon is "Mediocore", thats like saying its
half baked or a stuffty addon.

Why the heck does anyone need money for their addons anyways?You say that their going to use it for buying things to make better addons, food, water, and all that stuff, but in reality their just going to make them like always and then maybe buy another game, and another game and then become inactive unless he needs money for something.

As in the person would only make a addon just to get something for another game.
And the way I see it, if someone where to spend their money that they get from Blockland on something else like say...TF2 Hats and Keys and stuff, that means less money would go to Badspot and more money would go to other people.

Its like if someone is making $40 off a $20 dollar game that they didn't make.They are making money off of Blockland, that is literally Badspot loosing money off his own game, unless he makes the "non mediocore mods" himself and passes it as DLC.

Once again, becoming much like EA, but this I see worse.

TLDR;Read the bold words.