Damsel in Distress loveist Trope

[Aces]

I agree with you that feminism isn't a laughable cause, but I totally disagree on the Damsel in Distress trope.

Many people are captured in video games and we go and rescue them. Whether they are men or women, someone wants them to be saved and the prisoner wants to get the forget out of there. These quests frequent in nearly every RPG and are totally platonic experiences.

I would consider those to be better examples of objects rather than who the character focuses directly on saving. It's more meaninful because this dude is fighting tooth and nail for the girl because literally no one else can.

Those nameless pokemon that I have to get in mystery dungeon for an item are the objects.

Sora trying to rescue Kairi wasn't. She and Riku were the literal goals of the game. They ended once you got them because whether the player cared or not, Sora was doing it for them. Along with mario and the other examples of this trope.

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[Harm94]

Radical feminists argue that, and they don't mean blush they mean blue eye shadow and red lipstick and stuff that make women look like strippers.

But Anita is the one who keeps throwing the word Patriarchy around. A word radical Feminists use, therefore she is a hypocrite.

[Anti-Block]

I agree with you that feminism isn't a laughable cause, but I totally disagree on the Damsel in Distress trope.

Many people are captured in video games and we go and rescue them. Whether they are men or women, someone wants them to be saved and the prisoner wants to get the forget out of there. These quests frequent in nearly every RPG and are totally platonic experiences.

I would consider those to be better examples of objects rather than who the character focuses directly on saving. It's more meaninful because this dude is fighting tooth and nail for the girl because literally no one else can.

Those nameless pokemon that I have to get in mystery dungeon for an item are the objects.

Sora trying to rescue Kairi wasn't. She and Riku were the literal goals of the game. They ended once you got them because whether the player cared or not, Sora was doing it for them. Along with mario and the other examples of this trope.

Yes, but kairi was a full fledged character who had a voice and a role in the story and a keyblade(a big happy green one covered in flowers, mind you, which didn't kill a single heartless.) there's nothing wrong with caring for your friends but also Anita didn't mention KH because she understands that.

No one cares about peach or the girls in double dragon, they're just a thing you need to achieve.

But Anita is the one who keeps throwing the word Patriarchy around. A word radical Feminists use, therefore she is a hypocrite.

I'm looking at the points made in this video. Other stuff I'm not totally agreeing with.

[Aces]

I dont remember mario or luigi or the double dragon dudes having much of a personality either.

Should we just look at them as silent button responders while we're at it? I'm sure if the males in video games like these were given actual character development the female side sure as hell would too.

Neither the knight in shining armor or the princess are really talkative and they don't have alot of cutscenes to boot.

[Coulmbai]

so she cant make herself feel pretty because shes a feminist????
she puts on make up to make herself feel pretty just like you put on your fedora to make yourself feel cool

But
But
I don't wear fedoras
:c

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any form of "cause" is laughable, feminism just stands out amongst the bunch for its raw day-to-day stupidity

[Jaxx]

fyi: IQ bell curve among lovees as established clinically, peaks being 100, IQ average

[ultimamax]

"I'm going to share my opinion and disallow others from sharing theirs! That'll show 'em!"

Just another showy display of the 'everyone else is wrong and I'm right' attitude, in a way.

iirc she was getting tons of hate mail

[ultimamax]

itt: everyone thinks all feminists are dyke bitches who are complaining about nothing/pretending to be oppressed/tryna gain "female superiority"

this generation of feminism is a lot different. they are focusing on cultural change, striving towards a culture that doesn't portray women or men stereotypically.

[rockslide26]

I'd believe that a culture portraying men and women equally would be more humanist, no?

[ultimamax]

that's what feminists strive for. by tearing down destructive cultural norms, we would benefit both men and women alike. if you so wish, you can call yourself a humanist and do the same work. i think feminists are just convinced that in a sort of domino effect, fighting for women will benefit men. also, the argument could be made that women need feminism more than men need MRA right now.

[Harm94]

itt: everyone thinks all feminists are dyke bitches who are complaining about nothing/pretending to be oppressed/tryna gain "female superiority"

this generation of feminism is a lot different. they are focusing on cultural change, striving towards a culture that doesn't portray women or men stereotypically.

There is feminism then there is pseudo feminism which is what is bolded. Most I have come into contact with are pseudo feminists. I've been hearing about a subgroup that hates men or trains their young males to sit while they pee, circumcising them so they can't masturbate, some even to want to go as far as sterilize men because they might rape a woman.

[rockslide26]

that's what feminists strive for. by tearing down destructive cultural norms, we would benefit both men and women alike. if you so wish, you can call yourself a humanist and do the same work. i think feminists are just convinced that in a sort of domino effect, fighting for women will benefit men. also, the argument could be made that women need feminism more than men need MRA right now.

I don't believe you can fight for both genders by just working to fix the problems of one. I'd think that would be more of a humanist idea.
Pseudo-feminists are a different breed and doesn't cause a domino effect at all, it's taking steps backwards.

[Harm94]

In order to bring some form of social equality people need to understand the differences of both genders and address the issues both face. However on the psychical side of things someone will always argue why should a women get paid as much as a man for not working as hard as hard as man(think construction jobs).

[ultimamax]

There is feminism then there is pseudo feminism which is what is bolded. Most I have come into contact with are pseudo feminists. I've been hearing about a subgroup that hates men or trains their young males to sit while they pee, circumcising them so they can't masturbate, some even to want to go as far as sterilize men because they might rape a woman.

okay. but people are acting as though a majority of the feminist movement is these "psuedo feminists", when they are a vocal, irritating minority, who would not even be considered feminists by most.

I don't believe you can fight for both genders by just working to fix the problems of one. I'd think that would be more of a humanist idea.
Pseudo-feminists are a different breed and doesn't cause a domino effect at all, it's taking steps backwards.

http://feminspire.com/feminism-its-good-for-men-too/
i admit the patriarchy quote is a bit campy, but it's true. men in media are usually portrayed as clumsy buffoons.

In order to bring some form of social equality people need to understand the differences of both genders and address the issues both face. However on the psychical side of things someone will always argue why should a women get paid as much as a man for not working as hard as hard as man(think construction jobs).

iirc the 70c to a dollar statistic is based on groups of men and women in the same company, same position, same time frame, so the idea that women are making less than men due to loveism is valid.