Author Topic: Why do I hate coders???  (Read 9754 times)

Exactly. Zapk is a good example of a closed source coder. His last two mods, Rising Lava and Prop Hunt, were very fun, but if there were more than 5 servers hosting it, they'd have to share an already small playerbase (of people who play these gamemodes, not blocklanders) and they'd each have a max of 8 or 9 players most likely. also, it is not a coder's duty to release their mod. for example, let's say bushido makes a really popular gamemode. if he gives it to the public, it'll be very easy to play, and could bore everybody after a little while. but if he hosts it in small bursts, perhaps a few hours per day, he can keep people interested, and give himself time to code new features to prevent boredom.

I wasn't thinking about fickle 12 year olds while constructing my post but alright, I guess some people are jealous of marble man's ability to make a snowball catapult. I'm not. Most people aren't. Script kiddy is a slang term that's not defined in a dictionary so I'm not sure why you're getting brown town about it. I guess I should've used "not very good at coding coder"

The keyword was being "stupid stuff", as in, they make something that's extremely insignificant and then they think it makes them prestigious and then not release it excepting people to beg for it. It's not a problem, it's just pathetic.
they're not expecting people to beg for it? here's a good brown townogy. a cook makes a really good meal for his restaurant. if he gave the recipe to everyone, nobody would go there. if a coder releases his mod, he doesn't have a popular server anymore. i can understand your point for a few things truce made (like the rope emitters) and i'm sure other people have made people beg for trivial mods, but it's not their duty and it's in their interest to keep their servers popular.

Are you calling me a fickle 12 year old? I'm not even going to dignify that horrible potshot at me with a response.

Regardless, nobody asked if you are jealous of it or not. It doesn't take most people to corrupt peoples self-images. When I first started playing this game my best friend on it was Fooly Cooly, who was at the time very popular for his add-on Fooly Fun Commands. Every day ten kids would join with a message like "OMG are you the fooly cooly who made FFC?!" or "OMG are you the real fooly cooly?!" or any other permutation of omg, are you, and Fooly Cooly. People, usually kids, often put coders on a pedestal for their achievements. You're right in that they shouldn't take this to mean they're better than you or whatever, but it does happen whether you agree or not.

i hate you already

proof that topic is right
When I saw this topic title, I immediately thought of $trinick.

Exhibit A, everyone.

Are you calling me a fickle 12 year old? I'm not even going to dignify that horrible potshot at me with a response.

Regardless, nobody asked if you are jealous of it or not. It doesn't take most people to corrupt peoples self-images. When I first started playing this game my best friend on it was Fooly Cooly, who was at the time very popular for his add-on Fooly Fun Commands. Every day ten kids would join with a message like "OMG are you the fooly cooly who made FFC?!" or "OMG are you the real fooly cooly?!" or any other permutation of omg, are you, and Fooly Cooly. People, usually kids, often put coders on a pedestal for their achievements. You're right in that they shouldn't take this to mean they're better than you or whatever, but it does happen whether you agree or not.
what are you trying to prove

When I saw this topic title, I immediately thought of $trinick.

Exhibit A, everyone.
yep pretty much

here's a good brown townogy. a cook makes a really good meal for his restaurant. if he gave the recipe to everyone, nobody would go there. if a coder releases his mod, he doesn't have a popular server anymore. i can understand your point for a few things truce made (like the rope emitters) and i'm sure other people have made people beg for trivial mods, but it's not their duty and it's in their interest to keep their servers popular.
yeah but cooks live on their jobs
thats why they keep their recipe secret

people don't live on server hosting and add-on making
« Last Edit: October 04, 2013, 09:05:41 PM by The Resonte! »

When I saw this topic title, I immediately thought of $trinick.

Exhibit A, everyone.
Except I'm sitting here telling all of you that I have no pride stemming from my coding abilities. Go forget yourself.

what are you trying to prove
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just telling RaR that he's being a handicap.



Again, you're talking about something different. If Zapk wants to keep Rising Lava to himself to keep his server populated, then he's perfectly entitled. After all, it is his server. (I still found it loving hilarious when someone remade it and released it)

I'm talking about people who make stuff actually useful stuff and then make a topic about and then literally just not post in the topic again. Nobody cares about server specific game modes, they're all equally boring.

Are you calling me a fickle 12 year old? I'm not even going to dignify that horrible potshot at me with a response.
Obviously not, did you read what came after that?

Regardless, nobody asked if you are jealous of it or not.
Well last time I checked I didn't have to be given permission to state my opinion.

I'm just telling RaR that he's being a handicap.
I'm a handicap because I hate coders? I'm a handicap because I have an opinion that isn't yours? Lol. This is the forgetin' reason this topic exists.

Well last time I checked I didn't have to be given permission to state my opinion.
I wasn't saying you needed to have permission, I was saying that stating your opinion isn't the locus of this discussion.

I'm a handicap because I hate coders? I'm a handicap because I have an opinion that isn't yours? Lol. This is the forgetin' reason this topic exists.
No, you're a handicap because you said "Nobody is jealous of a bunch of script kiddies on blockland who make stupid stuff and don't release it." Your opinion is entirely valid.

I wasn't saying you needed to have permission, I was saying that stating your opinion isn't the locus of this discussion.
People were saying that people only dislike coders because they are jealous. I said I was not jealous. I was providing a counterexample, I don't understand how this is off-topic.

No, you're a handicap because you said "Nobody is jealous of a bunch of script kiddies on blockland who make stupid stuff and don't release it."
I responded to your post about this. You're literally just ruling out my entire post because of how I loving worded the last line. wtf?

I wasn't saying you needed to have permission, I was saying that stating your opinion isn't the locus of this discussion.
$trinick obviously won this time because RaR's opinion was dismissed.

what are you trying to prove
yep pretty much
yeah but cooks live on their jobs
thats why they keep their recipe secret

people don't live on server hosting and add-on making
let's say the chef has lots of money. he wants more money.
there. now it's not a necessity.

I responded to your post about this. You're literally just ruling out my entire post because of how I loving worded the last line. wtf?
No, you're entirely misunderstanding. As I just said, your opinion is entirely valid. I'm ruling out your last line, the rest of your post is fine.

$trinick obviously won this time because RaR's opinion was dismissed.
Your opinion is entirely valid.

Again, you're talking about something different. If Zapk wants to keep Rising Lava to himself to keep his server populated, then he's perfectly entitled. After all, it is his server. (I still found it loving hilarious when someone remade it and released it)

I'm talking about people who make stuff actually useful stuff and then make a topic about and then literally just not post in the topic again. Nobody cares about server specific game modes, they're all equally boring.
Obviously not, did you read what came after that?
Well last time I checked I didn't have to be given permission to state my opinion.
I'm a handicap because I hate coders? I'm a handicap because I have an opinion that isn't yours? Lol. This is the forgetin' reason this topic exists.
i agree that kind of stuff is pretty mean. but those are rare cases.

let's say the chef has lots of money. he wants more money.
there. now it's not a necessity.
o no

but if recipes aren't meant to be given out,
why does rtb exist if add-ons aren't meant to be given out?

o no

but if recipes aren't meant to be given out,
why does rtb exist if add-ons aren't meant to be given out?

recipes can be given out. that's fine. but there's a benefit to keeping it for yourself, and it's not immoral to do so. also someone could replicate your "recipe" pretty well if they knew the featureset.

but if recipes aren't meant to be given out,
why does rtb exist if add-ons aren't meant to be given out?
Just as some recipes aren't meant to be given out, some add-ons aren't meant to be given out. Lots of add-ons wouldn't even be interesting if they weren't given out, like RTB. VCE is another add-on that's meant to be given out, and so are most items.

Usually the type of add-on we're referring to that shouldn't be given out is new game modes. Some are fine to give out, but others thrive way better if they aren't.