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Author Topic: BlockoBlocko's Super Murder Mystery- Shut down temporarily  (Read 27677 times)

everytime i join, people just randomly kill each other. this gamemode seriously is just a dm, mafias dont even have to try

everytime i join, people just randomly kill each other. this gamemode seriously is just a dm, mafias dont even have to try

We're working on a system to prevent rdm.

We're working on a system to prevent rdm.

are you paying any attention at all to what i am saying

the issue isn't that people are rdming, the issue is that the admins are either too lenient, spread too thin with too many people to deal with or otherwise incapable of dealing with all the RDMers

the solution is to either get more admins or to lower the amount of players so that the admins have an easier time, not modify the basic system

you cannot run this without admins

it is not fit to be a dedicated server, the host should be online whenever the server is online and actively making sure things don't break

this is why i didn't want this to be released, because nobody will forgetin run it properly. you are trying to idiotproof the system in such a way the system will no longer work. i can understand that this is a hard concept to grasp because blockland's gamemodes (and badspot specifically states this as philosophy) are by and large designed so that no matter what idiots do on your server nothing falls apart, but with super murder mystery (and most mafia madness-likes) this is ludicrously hard to perform because the system is entirely based around the human judgement and thought processes. there is nothing computers can do to accurately ascertain the purposes behind people think so it is up to other people to make calls on whether the rules are being followed or not. if the amount of people you have checking to see if the rules are being followed are not are insufficient for the amount of people you have on the server you get more people to make sure people follow the rules or you lower the amount of people they have to look after

have you ever played mafia? people 'rdm' all the forgetin time. the entire gameplay of mafia is that people try to make it so that other people will be duped into killing eachother because of paranoia, false leads, or misplaced hunches. if people are explicitly rdming, an admin bans them. if they aren't, the game proceeds as normal. super murder mystery is mafia in an fps format, so the same patterns of thought and design choices work exactly the same. if they don't work the same, then you modify super murder mystery

except i've already hosted super murder mystery with a proper amount of admins, with a proper amount of players, and people loved it enough to make a spinoff server. obviously there must be some sort of method to my madness here

what you are missing is a sufficiently large and competent adminstration

i dont want to have to deal with people popping up on my forgetin steam and going MAN BUSHIDO WHY ARE YOU LETTING THESE PEOPLE RUIN YOUR SUPER MURDER MYSTERY and as much as id rather not have to deal with this in the first place, i dont want you guys to stop hosting murder mystery unless you guys break it beyond all belief but if stuff keeps going the way it looks like it's going super murder mystery is going to end up in the same junk heap with cityRP and zombies as a 2-bit gimmick-ass server that people host because they're creatively sterile and just want to get as high on the server list as humanly possible so they can step back and revel in their gigantic e-peens and whatever majesty that super murder mystery ever had will be lost to the infinite void of people not treating other people's work with respect
 
do you understand what i am saying
« Last Edit: January 10, 2014, 01:10:28 AM by Bushido »

Alright, Bushido.

I have came to a conclusion that I should remove inactive admins and replace them with people who are actually come on the server whenever they are on Blockland.

Yeah, I am sorry if you think I am ruining your gamemode. I just wanted to host this so people have fun. I do thank you very much for creating an awesome gamemode like this. Please don't get too upset. I do respect you and the gamemode.

And, I did lower the player limit to 25. The ideal ratio I am trying to achieve is 20 players and 5 admins. However, there is a reason why I am not lowering it to 16. Because many people do want to play on the server. They complain that I should make the player limit higher, so more people can join. I do think trying to shout over 30-40 people is a pain in the ass. My final decision is 25 and it's staying that way.

Gojira has been promoted to Super Admin. Plad and -FD- FoobyDude now have admin.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2014, 03:32:01 AM by Lurker »


7. Do not complain about the server. (Usually a kick or 5 minute ban)
11. Do not ask for the weapons.
lmao

And, I did lower the player limit to 25. The ideal ratio I am trying to achieve is 20 players and 5 admins. However, there is a reason why I am not lowering it to 16. Because many people do want to play on the server. They complain that I should make the player limit higher, so more people can join. I do think trying to shout over 30-40 people is a pain in the ass. My final decision is 25 and it's staying that way.
25 players is a loving overkill and you should know that.
Jesus christ did you even read Bushido's rant, it's not senseless.
At least make a system that the playercount rises with the amount of admins present on the server, with no admins it should be 8, and the max possible playercount is 20 with 5 admins on.
Do you not understand how loving difficult it is to administrate this gamemode?

I'm with aphex on this one
I personally think bim isn't cut out for administration

If you really don't want administration problems with RDMs, auto ban people after 3 warnings if they rdm

25 players is a loving overkill and you should know that.
Jesus christ did you even read Bushido's rant, it's not senseless.
At least make a system that the playercount rises with the amount of admins present on the server, with no admins it should be 8, and the max possible playercount is 20 with 5 admins on.
Do you not understand how loving difficult it is to administrate this gamemode?
Then you can make it for us? That would be awesome.

This server is filled with national socialist admins.

Although I have to say Henri is quite an exception, he's understanding and doing a great job at filtering RDM.


Gojira on the other hand..

Not to mention bim, I'll post screenies later if I remember it.

Hey
I don't RDM you incompetent forget
I shoot to kill for very good reason

^ See what I mean? And he's rude on top of that.

You have a problem.

^ See what I mean? And he's rude on top of that.

You have a problem.
...
I don't RDM, nor am I a bad admin.
You have the problem here, sir.

I have never seen gojira rdm he may be a jerk some times but he never RDMs.
Hes a pretty cool guy if you get to know him and a good admin too.

^ See what I mean? And he's rude on top of that.

You have a problem.
no you're just an idiot