Author Topic: supreme court struck down affirmative action 6-2  (Read 34270 times)

those statistics don't validate treating them differently, which is exactly what that girl wants
Perhaps.
But it certainly doesn't validate affirmative action either.
I'm just wondering if you do browse Stormfront. I really have nothing against them.
No, I don't.
I occasionally visit /pol/ but I didn't even get these pictures from there.

I'm not tribal, and as I said I'm taking sociology and recognize the reasons why blacks are in the way there are as well as the socially constructed nature of things, but I still think it's healthy to acknowledge statistics.

neither is wikipedia but it's acceptable in this situation

Either way, he still has Encyclopedia Britannica.

this is hilarious what feminism are you talking about because clearly it's not the ones in first world countries.

The feminism of rational people.
Just because a word is equated with an extremist minority doesn't mean the (relatively) more moderates don't fall under the same label. Take "Christian", or maybe "Muslim", for example.

by the way, those "radical minorities" are the ones influencing the real world.

just like the "radical minorities" of religious people get stupid laws passed like banning same-love marriage or teaching creationism (not just "everything was created", think more "everything was created according to a specific religious text [usually the Bible]") in public schooling

please don't get me started on this i got so much more

Go ahead.

Does it really matter why something is true, as long as it is?
I understand all the social causes and that race is a social construct and I'm taking sociology courses at Uni, but that doesn't invalidate the stats.
Those statistics don't mean that a middle class black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. It means a randomly selected black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. Did you even read the links I posted?

You sound like Rudyard Kipling ffs. Are you seriously arguing against affirmative action on the basis that black people are inferior? Your sociology professor must love you.

this is hilarious what feminism are you talking about because clearly it's not the ones in first world countries. by the way, those "radical minorities" are the ones influencing the real world.

please don't get me started on this i got so much more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_in_the_United_States#Third_Wave
http://www.thirdwavefoundation.org/about-us/mission/
we're third wave. if you feel like arguing against transgenderism/homoloveuality/gender and loveual minorities/cultural reform then go ahead. i'm not seeing any proof that most feminists are illegitimate.
No, I don't.
I occasionally visit /pol/ but I didn't even get these pictures from there.

I'm not tribal, and as I said I'm taking sociology and recognize the reasons why blacks are in the way there are as well as the socially constructed nature of things, but I still think it's healthy to acknowledge statistics.
If you are bringing up statistics to make some kind of point against affirmative action then you're arguing that black people don't deserve to be positively discriminated because of something that results from a social construction.

Tristan if you feel like arguing with someone besides Night Fox step up to the plate.
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Those statistics don't mean that a middle class black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. It means a randomly selected black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. Did you even read the links I posted?

You sound like Rudyard Kipling ffs. Are you seriously arguing against affirmative action on the basis that black people are inferior? Your sociology professor must love you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_in_the_United_States#Third_Wave
http://www.thirdwavefoundation.org/about-us/mission/
we're third wave. if you feel like arguing against transgenderism/homoloveuality/gender and loveual minorities/cultural reform then go ahead.If you are bringing up statistics to make some kind of point against affirmative action then you're arguing that black people don't deserve to be positively discriminated because of something that results from a social construction.

Tristan if you feel like arguing with someone besides Night Fox step up to the plate.
Actually, I'm sort of on the fence for this. On the one hand, numbers don't lie. On the other hand, it's unfair to judge people based on what other people in the same race do.

Actually, I'm sort of on the fence for this. On the one hand, numbers don't lie. On the other hand, it's unfair to judge people based on what other people in the same race do.
cycle of poverty
cycle of poverty
cycle of poverty
If you've ever actually seen a black person before you'd know that they are not inherently more likely to kill you because of the color of their skin. We're all the same species. These statistics are true, but they are not indicative of something inherent in black people, as white supremacists might have you believe. It's because of the social order and the overwhelming poverty and violence that plagues their community. If you need any more proof, just look at statistics for non-US countries.

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things feminists have done and if it isn't soon i'm pm'ing them

what the hell happened

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things feminists have done and if it isn't soon i'm pm'ing them
It doesn't matter how many sources you have for stuffty things that feminists have done. Those people are radfems. They think the progression of men's issues is misogyny. They are a vocal minority as I've stated a million times before.

Actually, I'm sort of on the fence for this. On the one hand, numbers don't lie. On the other hand, it's unfair to judge people based on what other people in the same race do.

Listen to the other hand.

Those statistics don't mean that a middle class black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. It means a randomly selected black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone.


I think this is a good way to word why.

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things feminists have done and if it isn't soon i'm pm'ing them

i get entertainment from MRAs please pm me this

It doesn't matter how many sources you have for stuffty things that feminists have done. Those people are radfems. They think the progression of men's issues is misogyny. They are a vocal minority as I've stated a million times before.

people like him can't be persuaded, don't bother

Where is this thread even going


It doesn't matter how many sources you have for stuffty things that feminists have done. Those people are radfems. They think the progression of men's issues is misogyny. They are a vocal minority as I've stated a million times before.
trust me they are far from a minority


If you are bringing up statistics to make some kind of point against affirmative action then you're arguing that black people don't deserve to be positively discriminated because of something that results from a social construction.
To be fair there are situations where you can't get to know a person too well, so its more appropriate to rely on generalizations and stereotypes. For example, insurance companies will charge you more for auto insurance if your car is red, or you're a male. To say that being an african american wouldn't fit perfectly well into this is silly.
Those statistics don't mean that a middle class black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. It means a randomly selected black person is 14 times more likely to murder someone. Did you even read the links I posted?
I understand that its mostly the blacks in the inner city zones of transition that make up these statistics, and once you look at african americans that have moved away, the perceived threat is higher than the actual threat.
You sound like Rudyard Kipling ffs. Are you seriously arguing against affirmative action on the basis that black people are inferior? Your sociology professor must love you.
No idea who that is, will have to look him up.


There's a difference between social level blame and individual blame.
If a black person mugs me in the streets in the inner city, it's his fault.
Sure, he might be there because of society but that doesn't excuse his actions in the slightest.
The social level of things only comes into consideration when one is acting on the social level (e.g. making and enforcing laws), individually if a business owner doesn't want to hire someone based on race, why the forget should I care.
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cycle of poverty
cycle of poverty
cycle of poverty
If you've ever actually seen a black person before you'd know that they are not inherently more likely to kill you because of the color of their skin. We're all the same species. These statistics are true, but they are not indicative of something inherent in black people, as white supremacists might have you believe. It's because of the social order and the overwhelming poverty and violence that plagues their community. If you need any more proof, just look at statistics for non-US countries.
I never said that being black inherently makes you more likely to be a murderer - that's complete tribal bullstuffery right there. I just said that  the statistics are true - if you take some random black people, ignoring social status, you WILL be more likely to find criminals. As I said, though, it's still unfair to judge people on the status of their race.

Okay. Source?
hold your star fish and read all of them these people source cause im pming them in a minute