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Author Topic: NASA's New Design for a Warp Drive Ship  (Read 5133 times)

"Fuels are any materials that store potential energy in forms that can be practicably released and used for work or as heat energy."

none of those things you listed even make energy by being burned so idk what you're getting athow does this make sense to you? what is it you think is going faster than light when a black hole sucks it in?
That definition is correct. Your original argument, though, was that fuel was required to harness energy for the ship. I was mentioning other ways that energy can be harnessed, without the use of fuel.
If light is the fastest thing, then how come it get sucked into black holes and never escape?
Lol.

That definition is correct. Your original argument, though, was that fuel was required to harness energy for the ship. I was mentioning other ways that energy can be harnessed, without the use of fuel.
it will be
feel free to tell me how we can use water, wind, or solar power to power a warp drive

it will be
feel free to tell me how we can use water, wind, or solar power to power a warp drive
I never said we could. Those were simply examples. But most people wouldn't consider the process of annihilation and thus gamma radiation to be powered by fuel. There are several other ways of harnessing energy without fuel. Now, to be honest, nuclear is the way to go. Once (if) we figure out how to create a stable and sustainable environment for nuclear fusion, we're good to go.

Probably already been said, but this is a real concept drawing that NASA did/contracted out.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/holy-crap-nasas-interplanetary-spaceship-concept-is-fr-1589001939/1589277571/+jesusdiaz

Pfft, haha! If we developed warp drive, it would look way more barebones and functional (stuff uses lots of energy and is probably heavy, have to cut lifting costs down tremendously) rather than sleek and sci-fi. The only way to counteract the problems of lifting it into space is to build it in space, but then there would not be a need for an aerodynamic shape.

Then what the hell is Hyperfriction?

Extreme friction, on the inside of the ship.
Going at "warp-speed" would mean running into a tiny piece of comet would breach the hull to some extent (due to speed)

This is called a concept, neat otherwise

Extreme friction, on the inside of the ship.

Could you please elaborate on this a little more? How is this caused? What effects does this have?

This is called a concept, neat otherwise

Could you please elaborate on this a little more? How is this caused? What effects does this have?


Going through space at EXTREME FTL speeds would cause hull-breaches due to tiny fragments of comets and what-not.
It would mess up the ship pretty bad.

Usually, traveling at orbital speed is alright because micro comets don't do much if any damage. Traveling at near light speed would have the not very fun effect of turning you into swiss cheese.


Going through space at EXTREME FTL speeds would cause hull-breaches due to tiny fragments of comets and what-not.
It would mess up the ship pretty bad.
Hey look, Doom is making sense! But it's not called hyper-friction. You just pulled that term out of your ass.

Going through space at EXTREME FTL speeds would cause hull-breaches due to tiny fragments of comets and what-not.
It would mess up the ship pretty bad.

That doesn't really have much to do with friction aside from the "scraping into stuff" part. "Hyperfriction" isn't a thing, that would imply something like "going so fast that you are getting friction burn from atmospheric particles" or something along those lines (which is a thing that current technologies are capable of but that's railguns and not FTL drives). You're just describing objects hitting other objects at high speeds, no need to make up bullstuff terminology.
So congratulations, you're a failure.

I'm sorry, is that a loving Star Wars hyperdrive ring? Because that's sick as all hell.

none of those things you listed even make energy by being burned so idk what you're getting athow does this make sense to you? what is it you think is going faster than light when a black hole sucks it in?
I hear 300,000 km is the max speed an object can travel. I also hear that light is the fastest thing out there, or so my science teachers have told me. I also understand that objects have their own gravity which acts upon objects near it. However to pull something you need a great enough mass. Also you need enough force, momentum, and speed to pull an object in. If this isn't the case, then do you except a vacuum cleaner to pull a freight train a snail to pull a pick up truck with a string.

I have also been told by teachers that light is a form of radiation and that these black holes emit radiation. So if I getting at anything, it is that these black holes are actually some type of light within the spectrum that is capable of trapping in particles of any type.

Lol.
I'm sorry, I came here for a discussion. If I am wrong please enlighten me instead of using your knowledge to make your self feel superior over everyone else.

I hear 300,000 km is the max speed an object can travel. I also hear that light is the fastest thing out there, or so my science teachers have told me. I also understand that objects have their own gravity which acts upon objects near it. However to pull something you need a great enough mass. Also you need enough force, momentum, and speed to pull an object in. If this isn't the case, then do you except a vacuum cleaner to pull a freight train a snail to pull a pick up truck with a string.

I have also been told by teachers that light is a form of radiation and that these black holes emit radiation. So if I getting at anything, it is that these black holes are actually some type of light within the spectrum that is capable of trapping in particles of any type.
I'm sorry, I came here for a discussion. If I am wrong please enlighten me instead of using your knowledge to make your self feel superior over everyone else.
I'd like to point out some things that, while correct, do not necessarily apply to this.

The exact speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second. That's an exact figure, as the meter itself is defined in terms of the speed of light. No object can travel faster than light because you would need an infinite amount of energy.

However the thing is, the ship wouldn't be travelling at the speed of light. It would actually be travelling at a much lower speed, or technically not at all.
Think of the space around the ship as filled with air. Then the ship creates a high pressure zone in the air behind it and a low pressure zone in front of it. This will cause the air to "push" the ship away from the high pressure, and also "pull" it towards the low pressure. Why this technically means the ship isn't moving I have no idea, but apparently that's the case.

No form of radiation can go into the black hole and escape. However for whatever reason apparently the immense gravity right at the event horizon (the point of no return so to speak) causes radiation to just come into being. Again I'm not sure why, I'm no Stephen Hawking. The particles can escape the gravity of the black hole because it hasn't yet entered the event horizon. I have no idea what you mean by "these black holes are actually some type of light within the spectrum that is capable of trapping in particles of any type" so I'm not sure what to say about that
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