Does anyone else really dislike school?

[General]

I was in a private school.

Why would you pay for a service that's stuff ? Spend your money on a better private school then

Doesn't that bother you? That you don't dictate what you learn, and so your entire future career is decided by a bunch of suits who will never meet you?

I was only dictated the subjects I was taught back when I was an immature kid who thought learning was pointless, then I was given the option to decide what I was taught when I was more mature.

How old are you?

I get that kids who haven't matured need basic training, but when teens are able to think for themselves and start to understand what path they want to take, I don't understand why we can't have the schools support that and offer teaching that's more personalised and works better for each student.

Simple: The teachers would request ridiculous pay. The harder a job is, the more people are paid typically, especially if there are a lot of academics involved.

some of us weren't so fortunate to be given your good genes or your environment which allowed for you to be better at school.

You are only assuming this. I never had personal tutoring and I have failed or gotten low grades for many many tests before. many.

So I guess those special education kids are forgeted, huh?

Not really because special needs kids do get a lot of extra teaching, pay attention to that at school... Depending on their condition they just take longer to learn/are unable to learn as much as a person without special needs would.

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[Johnimiester]

People who run the education system have low standards and are entirely focused on education as a product, rather than education as a means to raise children as productive members of society.

The U.S. education system is dysfunctional, authoritarian, and repressive of actual, free thought.
If it was geared toward allowing kids to properly learn, it wouldn't rely so much on menial assignments, and teachers wouldn't teach to the test like they would, either, and nor would it focus so much on forcing children into a rigid, authoritarian, restricting environment.

[McJob]

One last thing; I don't like the mentality of scoring. Whether it's out of 100 or A B C D E F, I feel it's wrong. When students get lower grades, no matter how hard they worked and how much they learned, it's absolutely terrifying to fail. Your parents will rip on you, other students will insult you for your intelligence, teachers start to care less about you because they think you're a dead-weight and dragging their averages down...absolute bullstuff.

I prefer the simple "Pass" or "Fail" system, where students can retry until they pass, and special credit is given to those students who exceed spectacularly.

Why would you pay for a service that's stuff ? Spend your money on a better private school then

You make the assumption:

A) I was in charge of what school I went to
B) That changing schools doesn't cost anything
C) That schools here have the availabilities to be able to switch students in and out

I was "locked in". There was no changing. I had to make do with what I had.

I was only dictated the subjects I was taught back when I was an immature kid who thought learning was pointless, then I was given the option to decide what I was taught when I was more mature.

So your circumstances were better than mine were.

How old are you?

20 right now, and 21 in July.

Simple: The teachers would request ridiculous pay. The harder a job is, the more people are paid typically, especially if there are a lot of academics involved.

Potentially, but Australia has much higher wages and our Government does put a lot of money into education, so I don't think wages are a massive issue.

You are only assuming this. I never had personal tutoring and I have failed or gotten low grades for many many tests before. many.

So then how come you don't see where I'm sitting? You should understand why I'm so pissed off about my education. I couldn't change jack-stuff, and I was too young to understand why education was important. Maybe if the school had actually given us a reason to care, I might have gone out and done my own study in a way that works for me.

[General]

teachers wouldn't teach to the test like they would, either.

What the workforce wants is "the test" though... There is no other way of comparing how well people know a subject than "the test" or "a test" in the least

[McJob]

What the workforce wants is "the test" though... There is no other way of comparing how well people know a subject than "the test" or "a test" in the least

The workforce wants people with experience.

If schools had more VET programs, students could more physical workplace experience down on their resume, and it'd be easier for them to get jobs. Nobody wants to hire a kid fresh out of high school, unless they're young enough that they don't have to pay them as much.

[General]

Wait wait, you're 20 and you cannot decide what you want to learn? That's loving hard to believe dude, you are an adult who is told what to learn above everything else adults are allowed to do.

[General]

The workforce wants people with experience.

This too, experience is a massive +1 for getting a job... However you will not be given a job in say Software Development without a Software Development qulaification.

Even more, in game development maths/mechanics are also looked for.

Also no, work experience is something people have do on their own. Besides, no employer would really care for any work experience someone who's say 15 would do. They look for people who have had work experience WITH their qualifications which is once they have already left high school

[McJob]

Wait wait, you're 20 and you cannot decide what you want to learn? That's loving hard to believe dude, you are an adult who is told what to learn above everything else adults are allowed to do.

I know what I want to learn now. Once I left High School and started my College course, I knew what I wanted to learn, and since then I've been doing very good at it. When I was younger and at college, I had no clue.

This too, experience is a massive +1 for getting a job... However you will not be given a job in say Software Development without a Software Development qulaification.

Even more, in game development maths/mechanics are also looked for.

The software development qualifications are not offered in High School. They require you to undertake Tertiary education.

I don't have the privilege of getting those qualifications because I didn't do Programming in high school, hence why I'm now doing Computer Science with edX so I can attempt it.

That said, game design studios want to see actual work and games. They don't care about certificates or grades.

[General]

The software development qualifications are not offered in High School. They require you to undertake Tertiary education.

I know, these are done in further education. High school only provide you with the basics (general education) such as maths to undertake a course in Software Development. You cannot do software development without knowing the stepping stones first, to which I refer to my very first post.

[SetGaming]

I am defensive of the school system because only now that I've come out of it do I realise that it was not at all a waste of time. During my last year of school I realised that there was absolutely no way that I would understand the content I was learning without firstly leaning and practising all the fundamentals through my whole schooling experience.

In any one subject you learn, no matter how useless you think the content you are being taught is, you must remember that absolutely everything is used somewhere in the world. Everything.

In my case, I learnt the subject maths, and I find myself applying what I once thought was "useless" knowledge with many things I do in life, including scripting on Blockland.

as someone who dislikes the kind of people who whine that they'll never use any of the stuff they learn in school, thank you

seriously, I have found uses for everything I've done in school - including my process of learning how to code

[Nomel]

The only way to comprehend is to work. There is no cutting edges, you only get better with practice.

Students do get graded on "comprehension"...

there are people who already understand what they're being taught yet they have to spend hours doing work that isn't going to help them at all. Homework is not beneficial to everyone and should only be assigned to students who are falling behind in tests as extra credit/study guides

test grades (and behavioral if necessary) are all that should matter in school because they are an accurate reflection of a student's understanding.

[McJob]

seriously, I have found uses for everything I've done in school - including my process of learning how to code

Where am I going to use that bit of knowledge about what Australian regions are dominated by what nationalities? Surely it doesn't loving matter and it was a waste of 3 geography classes?

[General]

Where am I going to use that bit of knowledge about what Australian regions are dominated by what nationalities? Surely it doesn't loving matter and it was a waste of 3 geography classes?

I would say you should have stopped learning that at age 14, but after reading how truly strange your schooling system is, I don't know what to say.

Surely you know you cannot extend your situation to public school, right?

[ZombiLoin]

move to america. we have a 100% functional educational system here.

[SetGaming]

Where am I going to use that bit of knowledge about what Australian regions are dominated by what nationalities? Surely it doesn't loving matter and it was a waste of 3 geography classes?

what if you were developing programs for certain nations/regions, or who to appeal to