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Was the punishment of my friend justified?

Yes, absolutely.
11 (12.2%)
Maybe, but not to that extent.
21 (23.3%)
He should not have been punished.
58 (64.4%)

Total Members Voted: 90

Author Topic: Freedom of Speech infringement at my school?  (Read 7691 times)

Well it sounded like you were arguing that oppression doesn't existI'm asking about specific situations in which LGBT teens attention whore

I'd urge everyone to not make assumptions about LGBT people using the experiences you've had yourself
Outwardly LGBT people are uncommon to meet. You may have met dozens of LGBT people who never even mentioned it or weren't out.
I'm pretty sure you've only read about gay people on the internet or something
Exactly. The day someone gets kicked out of their house for being straight, or commits Self Delete because their friends and family have alienated them because they're straight, or someone is beaten and hurt because they're straight, or legally fired or evicted or denied a loan or expelled because they're straight, there will be a need for heteroloveual pride and acceptance.
"The wise man knows he knows nothing, the fool thinks he knows all."
Consider expanding your worldview before you make generalizations about 350 million people, (5% of the world population) or even 15 million people (LGBT people in the US)

All the LGBT people I know (the many) are chill people


Sorry, late, but no. Oppression obviously exists - it's just that I wish it didn't. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

they're treated specially, its like the little Rock 9 all over again (IM NOT SAYING THAT WAS A BAD THING)
Gays being the 9 and objectors to homoloveuality such as myself are like the crowd

they are protected from scrutiny because they are a minority and all I can do is sit back and watch, if I say anything against them, even though i'm in the majority in my community I could be suspended or labeled a family man just for speaking my mind while they get rights poured on them for being "Special"

It's like looking directly at a person you want to punch in the face but finding yourself bound by all four limbs to the chair you're sitting in as they taunt you day by precious loving day

im not mad at gays, im mad at society and its insane desire to accommodate every new thing no matter how forgeted up it is and leaving the majority behind to pick up the pieces

think about, overloveualization, the devaluing of the family structure (meaning high divorce rates) and all the other sick and twisted things part of the mainstream that didn't exist 30 years ago

im not mad at gays, im mad at society
It's like looking directly at a person you want to punch in the face but finding yourself bound by all four limbs to the chair you're sitting in as they taunt you day by precious loving day
Looks like you are mad at gays.

Looks like you are mad at gays.
alluding to the feeling, not the situation
the feeling of helplessness

People should be allowed to respond to anything however they want as long as it is not violent or outright vandalism.
The punished observers(students that liked the photo) did not deserve any punishment

I would rather just have the gays be allowed to be united however they want so they can finally just shut up for a few days.(even then they we'd likely still see them throw their parades)

they're treated specially, its like the little Rock 9 all over again (IM NOT SAYING THAT WAS A BAD THING)
Gays being the 9 and objectors to homoloveuality such as myself are like the crowd

they are protected from scrutiny because they are a minority and all I can do is sit back and watch, if I say anything against them, even though i'm in the majority in my community I could be suspended or labeled a family man just for speaking my mind while they get rights poured on them for being "Special"

It's like looking directly at a person you want to punch in the face but finding yourself bound by all four limbs to the chair you're sitting in as they taunt you day by precious loving day

im not mad at gays, im mad at society and its insane desire to accommodate every new thing no matter how forgeted up it is and leaving the majority behind to pick up the pieces

think about, overloveualization, the devaluing of the family structure (meaning high divorce rates) and all the other sick and twisted things part of the mainstream that didn't exist 30 years ago
i hope you're not implying that these things didn't exist 30 years ago. they did. they were only hidden under layers of societal taboo, so when those feelings did surface, they did so explosively. literally. i don't think anybody sensible wants to return to those "times."

I could be labeled a family man just for speaking my mind
ok idk what your opinions are
but just because you're only "speaking your mind"
does not somehow prevent you from being a family man. if your opinion is that all gay people are disgusting, yes that is just an opinion, but having that opinion is exactly why you would be a family man

ok idk what your opinions are
but just because you're only "speaking your mind"
does not somehow prevent you from being a family man. if your opinion is that all gay people are disgusting, yes that is just an opinion, but having that opinion is exactly why you would be a family man
"I really loving hate blacks and Jews but I don't want to be labeled a white supremacist!"

they're treated specially, its like the little Rock 9 all over again (IM NOT SAYING THAT WAS A BAD THING)
Gays being the 9 and objectors to homoloveuality such as myself are like the crowd

they are protected from scrutiny because they are a minority and all I can do is sit back and watch, if I say anything against them, even though i'm in the majority in my community I could be suspended or labeled a family man just for speaking my mind while they get rights poured on them for being "Special"

It's like looking directly at a person you want to punch in the face but finding yourself bound by all four limbs to the chair you're sitting in as they taunt you day by precious loving day
it's like i don't even need a counterargument lol. just gonna repost this.

Its funny how a post makes sense in your head when you post it and quickly realize later that some slip in judgement completely changes the tone and makes me look like I go burning gays at the stake. I don't
I simply don't believe In their way of thinking it disagrees with my religion and it just doesn't seem right to me for two men or two women or one man and one transgender or what have you to have love or have more intimate forms of love between eachother and I know it happens and I know they cant control their own bodies, but damn do I have to force myself to like them now to be in the right?

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Passively disagreeing isn't disagreement

they're treated specially, its like the little Rock 9 all over again (IM NOT SAYING THAT WAS A BAD THING)
Gays being the 9 and objectors to homoloveuality such as myself are like the crowd

they are protected from scrutiny because they are a minority and all I can do is sit back and watch, if I say anything against them, even though i'm in the majority in my community I could be suspended or labeled a family man just for speaking my mind while they get rights poured on them for being "Special"

It's like looking directly at a person you want to punch in the face but finding yourself bound by all four limbs to the chair you're sitting in as they taunt you day by precious loving day

im not mad at gays, im mad at society and its insane desire to accommodate every new thing no matter how forgeted up it is and leaving the majority behind to pick up the pieces

think about, overloveualization, the devaluing of the family structure (meaning high divorce rates) and all the other sick and twisted things part of the mainstream that didn't exist 30 years ago
do you even understand what the purpose of the day of silence is?

Its funny how a post makes sense in your head when you post it and quickly realize later that some slip in judgement completely changes the tone and makes me look like I go burning gays at the stake. I don't
I simply don't believe In their way of thinking it disagrees with my religion and it just doesn't seem right to me for two men or two women or one man and one transgender or what have you to have love or have more intimate forms of love between eachother and I know it happens and I know they cant control their own bodies, but damn do I have to force myself to like them now to be in the right?
you don't have to like them

just don't be an starfish

Its funny how a post makes sense in your head when you post it and quickly realize later that some slip in judgement completely changes the tone and makes me look like I go burning gays at the stake. I don't
I simply don't believe In their way of thinking it disagrees with my religion and it just doesn't seem right to me for two men or two women or one man and one transgender or what have you to have love or have more intimate forms of love between eachother and I know it happens and I know they cant control their own bodies, but damn do I have to force myself to like them now to be in the right?
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dislike of or prejudice against homoloveual people.
your beliefs match the description of family values. i don't believe in dismissing people with reasonable cause to dislike gays, but any justification that depends on religion is trash in my mind.

lmao you misunderstand and misinterpret literally everything. When you say "many" you make it sound like it's some overwhelming majority. It's not. It's a small group of starfishs that no sane individual wants to be around. Then you go on to say that it's the sane persons fault they're discriminated against because some other jackass that they have no relation to is an asshat. And no, being straight has no drawbacks except a very small minority of radical femenists that might discriminate against you for being a straight white male. LGBT people are just as human as any other person, discrimination is widely frowned down upon, because it's a loving richardhead thing to do. You're telling me it's a bad thing that people who think gay people don't deserve equal rights get their careers ruined?

LGBT's do have it tougher, and the graphic he provided included sources, and the other statistics are easily corroboratable by a simple google search. This is further proof that you don't actually pay attention to the arguments being made.
When I say "many", I am not implying an "overwhelming majority", or at least not intending to. When I say "many", I mean, "enough to make a noticeable difference". However, I do think the number is larger than you wish to admit. I also did not say anything about "it's their fault their gay and therefore discriminated against". I said that, in some cases, they are able to reduce some of those things by not drawing so much negative attention to themselves. This is exactly what I mean by "getting torn apart". I said "something able to be remotely interpreted as homophobic", implying that is not WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SAID NOR IMPLIED. It is when it is twisted and turned to fit a bias is when it becomes homophobic. The graphic he provided did provide a source, yes. However, those same laws (or lack thereof) also allow straight people to be fired, expelled, etc. for being straight. It is a lack of protection of gender identity and loveual orientation. Now likelihood is a different story. Do not say I am not paying attention to the arguments, please.


It does not matter how many I have met personally. It's all about observations. And again, it's not uneasiness, I can see how you might be able to twist that, but it's simply an observation I have made.

Read above for the whole career thing, please.

You can call it a stereotype if you want, I don't really care. Even then, stereotypes are almost always based on a truth. I see far too many people let their loveualities define them. I cited the video because I was hoping it would at least help you see what I'm trying to say, maybe it didn't work like I had hoped.

BTW good job not acknowledging any of my legitimately sourced statistics.
Read again, son. Please. I'm not even going to dignify that with anything else.
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The thing about the term family man is the phobe part at the end it makes me as a disagreer look like the backwards thinker even though I don't believe I am it makes me look im afraid of change and it carries a horribly negative connotation

The thing about the term family man is the phobe part at the end it makes me as a disagreer look like the backwards thinker even though I don't believe I am it makes me look im afraid of change and it carries a horribly negative connotation
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think about, overloveualization, the devaluing of the family structure (meaning high divorce rates) and all the other sick and twisted things part of the mainstream that didn't exist 30 years ago
have you ever considered that you may actually be afraid of change