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Was the punishment of my friend justified?

Yes, absolutely.
11 (12.2%)
Maybe, but not to that extent.
21 (23.3%)
He should not have been punished.
58 (64.4%)

Total Members Voted: 90

Author Topic: Freedom of Speech infringement at my school?  (Read 7794 times)

That seems kind of rambled. Will you please reword?
Just as there are "many" flamboyant LGBT people, there are "many" equally despicable straight people. LGBT people are still discriminated more. Having your career ruined because of misinterpretation can happen to anyone and something as specific as you mentioned will happen extremely rarely, I haven't even heard of one case of it. Even then, being blatantly anti-gay has even helped people before, an example is Memories Pizza.

It's impossible to estimate how many, but I guarantee you I've seen at least 6-10 of these people I am, these last 8 months or so alone. If I have seen less than 20 gay people in my lifetime, isn't this enough?

And no, not PDAs, as we both said, letting their loveualities define them.

That third one was not about warble.
my mistake

Again, I said likelihood is a different story. Keep up.
yes it is a different story. gays are not discriminated against in law (besides not being able to get married) because straight people don't require protections for their loveuality, so they don't have them. but straight people are extremely unlikely to be discriminated against for being straight, while gay people are way more likely to have it happen to them, which is the justification for protections for loveuality (including for straight people)

I'll explain that last one tomorrow because I don't feel like typing out the wall of text that the least would require. Sorry.
cant wait to hear an explanation about why it's not ok for LGBT people to create support groups and solidarity events despite the horrible situations they endure

The only point I've intended to make is that far too many people let their loveualities define them. Can we agree on that?
this was never your only point. your point was "I know that not every single BLT person is one of those I am describing, but a decent number seem to be, perhaps even without
realizing it."


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LGBT people in general?

Yes. They make complete asses of themselves by demanding special attention and treatment, then anyone who doesn't realize their apparent special royalty status is either a "bigot" or a "family man" or anything of the like.

that was your point, not "i don't like it when people define theirselves entirely by their loveuality

That seems kind of rambled. Will you please reword?
your entire argument has been hobbled together nonsense. what does "likelihood is a different story" even mean

Children don't have rights or freedoms. They are barely even human.

I remember when I was tearing down KONY2012 posters in school. I gave 0 stuffs, and not a single bad thing in return.

Children don't have rights or freedoms. They are barely even human.
lol, what kind of level pretentiousness is this
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Children don't have rights or freedoms. They are barely even human.

ooh that 16 yr old angst

Correct you are
Basically how I feel. I don't have a problem with someone being a homoloveual, it's the fact that they constantly toss their loveual preference in everyone elses' face that makes it so disgusting.

Maybe we should start putting up posters and form groups in school to promote heteroloveual acceptance too. It only makes it fair, right?

I've never seen anyone "throw their homoloveuality in people's faces" the way people like you claim they do. Ever. I do, on the other hand, see people like you throwing heteroloveuality everywhere with comments like "HURRR we need a heteroloveuality awareness group." The difference is straight people aren't discriminated against, assaulted/killed, disowned, and aren't (legally) discriminated against simply for being straight. Straight people don't need to be told it's okay to be  straight


Making a big deal out of being different, if you will. Sort of like a hipster saying, "I was "x" before it was cool", it's as if they're special because they are different.
The problem your experiencing is angsty teens, not loveuality. Kids want attention. A straight kid will find something else to get attention for. Get into the real world where people have outgrown that and you'll have no idea what anyone's loveuality is


People keep saying special treatment, but not saying anything any what that means. The only things i see is wanting the same things everyone else has: not worrying about losing jobs, being assaulted, etc



I am not sure where you are getting that, but I have to observe EVERY SINGLE BLT person on the planet to make an opinion?
Consider that for every outwardly gay person you're complaining about there's like 100 more completely normal acting gay people that your don't even know are gay and your bashing them for a behavior they don't exhibit



they're treated specially, its like the little Rock 9 all over again (IM NOT SAYING THAT WAS A BAD THING)
Gays being the 9 and objectors to homoloveuality such as myself are like the crowd

Think about, overloveualization, the devaluing of the family structure (meaning high divorce rates) and all the other sick and twisted things part of the mainstream that didn't exist 30 years ago
1. Society has advanced enough that (at least in western society) "objectors to homoloveuality" are the minority, not the "crowd"
2. Fun fact: the highest divorce rates belong to the more conservative groups.
3. Homoloveuality has definitely existed since... ever. It's just that people can be more open because they're less fearful because people are realizing "wow, these people aren't hurting anyone at all!"

Also, another factor to bring up is that the posters are considered the schools property and tearing them down is destruction of property/vandalism, which, regardless of your political thoughts about the content, is a perfectly valid reason for suspension
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I remember when I was tearing down KONY2012 posters in school. I gave 0 stuffs, and not a single bad thing in return.
But you live in Australia, so they're all used to crime there.

But you live in Australia, so they're all used to crime there.
As heard from the interview, Australians have way worse things to worry about~

Nobodies rights have been violated.
His friends right to education has been violated.

His friends right to education has been violated.
We've been over this...

His friends right to education has been violated.
well that's not really a right. or suspension wouldn't even be legal, and college would be free, lol

I remember when I was tearing down KONY2012 posters in school. I gave 0 stuffs, and not a single bad thing in return.
You were really stupid for doing this lol.

We've been over this...
sorry didn't feel like reading, I read the next page and it didn't mention it so I just said that.

well that's not really a right. or suspension wouldn't even be legal, and college would be free, lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_education
You get advanced education in college, which is why you pay for it. Grades 1-12 are basic education and essentially free.
You can have your rights taken away. "Freedom of movement" is temporarily taken away once you've committed a crime and are detained.
Simply liking a picture on instagram does not warrant the school to suspend them. They abused their power there.

Simply liking a picture on instagram does not warrant the school to suspend them.
I don't think anyone is saying this was right
Only that it was a valid punishment for those who tore down the posters. Regardless of your opinion on the content, it was vandalism, and vandalism is a perfectly legitimate reason for suspension
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