[POLL] do you think the confederate flag should be banned in the united states?

[Cybertails1998]

Which one exactly
A cross with 13 stars
Or the actual CSA flag

the cross is more widely known and gets flown more often iirc

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[Harm94]

or russia and (i think) america funding a stuffstorm on ukrainian territory.

or america with ... pretty much everything really

Wherever Putin is getting his intel that Ukraine is run by national socialists is completely false...



the national socialists are actually in Mongolia to the south.

[ZombiLoin]

All the countries in the world have done stuffty things. Like Russia and the USSR for example when the deported the Tartars, or most of Western Europe and how they ran Africa, or Canada with its Residential Schools.

False equivalency is awful and adds nothing to the discussion. Just because somebody else did something wrong does not make you right, it just makes two wrong people. Attempting to use other atrocities as an argument for people to stop recognizing an atrocity is both morally bankrupt and bad logic.

[Dodger]

May not be a symbol of racism according to modern southerners but it was designed that way

[Harm94]

I wouldn't call it false equalivance, more like bringing like to another issue when it comes to arguments among nations. Do you think any country has the right to call out another country for doing something bad when they themselves have committed atrocities of there own? In my opinion it doesn't make anyone better for calling another out.

[ZombiLoin]

I wouldn't call it false equalivance, more like bringing like to another issue when it comes to arguments among nations. Do you think any country has the right to call out another country for doing something bad when they themselves have committed atrocities of there own? In my opinion it doesn't make anyone better for calling another out.

No, but countries aren't people, and people can universally condemn all atrocities whether or not they occurred in their or the other.

Also, it's the definition of false equivalence.

[Ipquarx]

not really, the only case of censorship i've heard about is the swastika, which i feel is justified

youre also banned from doing the Riddler salute!!! so bad!!!

[MoltenKitten]

Much like other things over the years it has had its meaning changed. Take the phrase "take a chill pill" a chill pill was originally a cyanide tablet the Germans (I think) would take if captures by the enemy. I am 90% sure that isn't what people mean today when they say I to you. These days the flag is supposed to symbol nothing other than a rebellious attitude. It is no longer tribal.

[Otis Da HousKat]

Take the phrase "take a chill pill" a chill pill was originally a cyanide tablet the Germans (I think) would take if captures by the enemy.

Why would you even think that is true?

[gr8dayseth]

Take the phrase "take a chill pill" a chill pill was originally a cyanide tablet the Germans (I think) would take if captures by the enemy.

uh where'd you get that from?

[DJ Charizard]

uh where'd you get that from?

Probably from his imagination.

[SeventhSandwich]

Take the phrase "take a chill pill" a chill pill was originally a cyanide tablet the Germans (I think) would take if captures by the enemy.

Uh, the German forces in national socialist Germany by and large spoke German. That means that 'chill pill' would be loosely translated as something like 'kuhle pille', which loses pretty much all of its assonant and rhyming properties. What that tells me is that your etymology is wrong.


Anyway, the Confederate flag shouldn't be outright banned. We have a constitutional amendment that guarantees the right for people to hang up flags, even if said flags embody one of the worst periods in American history. As for infrastructure, it shouldn't be put on state-owned buildings.

However, if you think that the Confederate flag is a symbol of 'states rights' instead of slavery, you're an idiot.

[Nonnel]

youre also banned from doing the Riddler salute!!! so bad!!!

you are the SHEEPLE and you are letting censorship WIN

[Harm94]

No, but countries aren't people, and people can universally condemn all atrocities whether or not they occurred in their or the other.

Also, it's the definition of false equivalence.

So you believe you identified a fallacy. Sounds like your argument could fall under Fallacy Fallacy. To me identifying whether or not something is a fallacy is a pointless thing to do. It doesn't actually prove that someone is right or wrong, nor does it make the problem go away.

[Ragequit]

we should censor censorship