Annoying Orange leading in GOP field at 24%

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Aces

July 20, 2015, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: rambo1220 on July 20, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
Oh absolutely, it's impossible for me to give evidence here too. This is just my opinion on the subject, and rather not the fact.
Saying "John McCain didn't get tortured" is a claim and needs to be backed with substantial evidence or else you're talking out your ass.

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Dreams_Of_Cheese

July 20, 2015, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: rambo1220 on July 20, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
Oh absolutely, it's impossible for me to give evidence here too. This is just my opinion on the subject, and rather not the fact.
I don't think it's a matter of opinion whether or not torture took place somewhere. Stop being a dummy.

Aces

July 20, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
Bush did 9/11 imo.

Oasis

July 20, 2015, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: rambo1220 on July 20, 2015, 10:17:50 PM
You sure?
seems a majority of the responses I've been getting from you (with the exception of a few educated and backed up ones) have been just "lol". Please, take a look at your hypocrisy.

and do you really have to go as far as to insult my parents just because of my political opinion? They don't "shove" anything down my throat and give me a huge amount of freedom. I suggest you stick to the topic at hand rather that insulting my mam and pap plz. thnx.

I wasn't trying to insult your parents, I was insinuating that you're being spoon fed your opinions without any trace of fact, and then you're coming onto the internet touting your opinions as facts that require no evidence on your side of the debate.

Also, I think I covered everything in my one post to you, the rest of my posts have merely been my background opinion on how ridiculous you are being.

Kimon²

July 20, 2015, 10:30:22 PM

rambo1220

July 20, 2015, 10:39:12 PM
Quote from: otto-san on July 20, 2015, 10:21:16 PM
i'm personally not going to be inclined to take someone seriously in a debate if they have some kind of passive hostility or superiority complex
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whhhhyyyyy exactly is there reason to believe that he's some kind of special exception? idk i'm not caught up with this story but it seems natural to me that torturers will torture their targets indiscriminately
...but you're kinda asserting your opinions as being based in fact, so why not give the fact that supposedly backs them?


jesus christ i'm sounding hostile for no reason, cus i don't feel hostile, excuse my goofy wording
apologies, don't mean to sound hostile or anything. But otherwise sure I'd be glad to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMcYqtayU7c

Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on July 20, 2015, 10:21:49 PM
We're talking facts, not opinions.
Actually no, this entire discussion is based on opinion. You may say it's based on fact, but yet this entire thread has been people speaking their mind, but not providing evidence to their cause (with a few exceptions, myself also doing this). It's the exact same on how everyone experiences their own reality, one person can say that the orange is orange, while another person can say that the orange is blue, and truly believe it. Now I'm not saying that'd actually happen, as that is just an example.

Quote from: Oasis on July 20, 2015, 10:29:21 PM
I wasn't trying to insult your parents, I was insinuating that you're being spoon fed your opinions without any trace of fact, and then you're coming onto the internet touting your opinions as facts that require no evidence on your side of the debate.

Also, I think I covered everything in my one post to you, the rest of my posts have merely been my background opinion on how ridiculous you are being.
If you look back on a few of my posts, and actually bother to watch the videos I linked, you'd see that I have provided evidence to back myself up. And you're being absolutely as ridiculous as I am, considering that all we're doing is putting our opinions out there. And it seems like you definitely were insulting my parents, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. But I'm not going to use the "you hurt my feelings" excuse here to back myself up.

Oasis

July 20, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: rambo1220 on July 20, 2015, 10:39:12 PM
If you look back on a few of my posts, and actually bother to watch the videos I linked, you'd see that I have provided evidence to back myself up. And you're being absolutely as ridiculous as I am, considering that all we're doing is putting our opinions out there. And it seems like you definitely were insulting my parents, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. But I'm not going to use the "you hurt my feelings" excuse here to back myself up.

Yeah, a bizarre 90s documentary is not evidence lol.

Edit: Oh you're talking about the McCain 'evidence' you posted in that same post. Ok, sure, another conspiracy theorist documentary on YouTube.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2015, 10:45:16 PM by Oasis »

Dreams_Of_Cheese

July 20, 2015, 10:43:20 PM
There's a significant difference between saying "This is my opinion. I have based it on these facts" and "This is my opinion. I have based in none facts"

Ipquarx

July 20, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Oasis on July 20, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
Yeah, a bizarre 90s documentary is not evidence lol.
Nothing about that directly invalidates anything. Evidence is evidence no matter how old or bizarre it is. I'm not claiming any validity of the documentary, I'm just saying: You cannot dismiss it like that.

Epicduke

July 20, 2015, 10:46:52 PM
wait what thee hell are we arguing about lol

Oasis

July 20, 2015, 10:48:11 PM
Quote from: Ipquarx on July 20, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
Nothing about that directly invalidates anything. Evidence is evidence no matter how old or bizarre it is. I'm not claiming any validity of the documentary, I'm just saying: You cannot dismiss it like that.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Chronicles
The video, directed by conservative activist Patrick Matrisciana, was characterized by The Washington Post as a "bizarre and unsubstantiated documentary."[1]

The New York Times reported that it was a poorly documented "hodgepodge of sometimes-crazed charges."[2] It helped perpetuate a conspiracy theory known as the "Clinton Body Count" about a list of associates Clinton was purported to have had killed.[3] The deaths listed in the film have largely been discredited due to deliberate bias, weak circumstantial evidence, and coincidence.[3]

The film was produced by Citizens for Honest Government, a project of a Westminster, California organization named Creative Ministries Inc., partially funded by Larry Nichols, a long-time Clinton opponent, and distributed with help from the Rev. Jerry Falwell, who also appears in the film.[1] Over 300,000 copies of the film were put into circulation.[2]
Can I dismiss it now?

rambo1220

July 20, 2015, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: Oasis on July 20, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
Yeah, a bizarre 90s documentary is not evidence lol.
Again, an uneducated response dismissing what I bring to you as evidence as "bizarre" when you can't even judge the content because you haven't seen it.

Quote from: Ipquarx on July 20, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
Nothing about that directly invalidates anything. Evidence is evidence no matter how old or bizarre it is. I'm not claiming any validity of the documentary, I'm just saying: You cannot dismiss it like that.

Quote from: Dreams_Of_Cheese on July 20, 2015, 10:43:20 PM
There's a significant difference between saying "This is my opinion. I have based it on these facts" and "This is my opinion. I have based in none facts"
Well I never said that what I was saying was fact did I? To my knowledge I don't remember calling anything fact, but otherwise I never previously clarified that it was my opinion up until only a bit ago. I'm aware of the diffirence there, but I'm saying that this IS my opinion, rather than fact. It's what I believe is fact, but that's just my opinion. Same as for everyone else here, what they say is what they believe as fact, but is still yet an opinion.

Quote from: Epicduke on July 20, 2015, 10:46:52 PM
wait what thee hell are we arguing about lol
my dad didn't buy the right cheese at the store

Swat 3

July 20, 2015, 10:49:22 PM
People complain about the bipartisian voting situation, but that is literally the only way it will work for any FPTP system (which sucks horse snake).

rambo1220

July 20, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
Quote from: Oasis on July 20, 2015, 10:48:11 PM
Can I dismiss it now?
No, because you still haven't watched it yourself. Remember that's written by someone with a biased opinion, you can't judge it no matter what anyone else says because you still haven't viewed it.

Quote from: Swat 3 on July 20, 2015, 10:49:22 PM
People complain about the bipartisian voting situation, but that is literally the only way it will work for any FPTP system (which sucks horse snake).
the votes are rigged anyways.

Oasis

July 20, 2015, 10:51:02 PM
Quote from: rambo1220 on July 20, 2015, 10:48:31 PM
Again, an uneducated response dismissing what I bring to you as evidence as "bizarre" when you can't even judge the content because you haven't seen it.

Forgive me for being prejudiced scum when it comes to what is clearly a conspiracy documentary created by at best people with an agenda, at worst loving lunatics.
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