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Author Topic: Windows 10 Thread | I AM LATE BUT IT'S HERE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE  (Read 134999 times)


i'm stuck in a similar forget up; i have an activated windows 7 on an old slow pc (upgraded from windows xp; was painfully slow as you could expect with the low specs and the fact it was bought in 2007) and now i'll have to hook it back up and unregister it so i can use it on the pc i actually use now; then again i'm not too keen on installing it yet even though it's already on another computer of mine, not to mention i'd want a clean install since the pc i use now isn't that great eitherand the sneaky stuff i've heard about it even some are disablable

why are you guys scared anyways? are you predators?
My concern is how abuse able their information gathering methods are. We live in age where almost anyone can make some sort of bug and implant it into card reading machine and swipe peoples information, or where anyone can hack a big store like walmart and target and steal everyone's information. If they can do that, think about how much easier Microsoft made it for the small fries and bottom feeders to get into your computer and exploit the systems Microsoft put in place.

also, here's another thing: my mom's laptop died so i took the hard drive out of it (one i put in at the same time i installed windows 8.1). i pretty sure i can hook it up to my pc and deactivate the key somehow. not sure how i'd do that. i also read that if i call microsoft, they'll deactivate the key so i can register it.

One thing I've noticed is that, if you do not have the best Internet service in the world, the download/installation process can annihilate the Internet speeds for other devices.

Hold on now, the only one that would possibly prevent them from withholding it would be the first point. You remember my CISPA is back topic right? That makes it so that any law enforcement agency will have access to all the information microsoft has gathered; that's complying with the law that allows them to do so. Plus, "when we have a good faith belief" is intentionally vague: Legally, I could have a good faith that my highlighter is possessed.
Government data collection agencies have always had means of stealing your data, it's not like they can say "no" if any of those anti-privacy bills are passed. They probably get more information from other sources, and would rely on Microsoft's data only if they have strong suspect.

What is Microsoft going to do with all this miniscule information that you are so afraid of? Like I said, they want to stay in business and stay on the good side of the law. Any sort of misuse of data would result in pretty much a destruction of Microsoft in general, both legally and with revenue. Not to mention that also makes it extremely important for them to be secure with it, rather than have it something any old hacker can grab.

If you never take any risks, especially tiny ones like this, you will miss out on a lot. If you're truly scared of this data collection, you can turn it all off. Or miss out on all the perks Windows 10 brings out.

People defending Window 10's data collection ought to post their personal information.
They clearly don't mind people seeing it so you might as well show us too.
Do you really think the data gathered is all looked at by people? Or posted across the web?

Also, the information collected isn't the pictures on your hard drive or cloud, it's primarily system specifications and error reporting.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2015, 10:15:29 PM by Narkro555 »

so did i have to install it today, because i want to not have windows 7
also this whole data collection thing makes me iffy

"Downgraded" on my desktop back to Windows 8.1. Can actually use my computer again! :D
« Last Edit: July 29, 2015, 10:22:13 PM by Georges »

Do you really think the data gathered is all looked at by people? Or posted across the web?

Also, the information collected isn't the pictures on your hard drive or cloud, it's primarily system specifications and error reporting.

I mean if they are so eager hand out their information, they might as well give it to everyone.

Holly forget what's with all these Windows 7 obsessed people looking for another excuse to bash on a new windows version that is loving free.


loving tinfoil much, the P2P thing is meant to distribute updates faster and you can turn it of for internet and only enable it in local networks.
Its like you guys can never get satisfied, they mind as well just release Windows 11 as a rebranded Windows 7 with nothing changed.

I am at total loss at the fact some people don't get the FREE upgrade just because some stuff rumors being spread around, just like the same rumor that made people dislike windows 8, and that was only because someone spread a rumor that the start menu was gone, when it never went anywhere it just became a fullscreen redesigned start menu, with more space and optional apps.

Government data collection agencies have always had means of stealing your data, it's not like they can say "no" if any of those anti-privacy bills are passed. They probably get more information from other sources, and would rely on Microsoft's data only if they have strong suspect.
Well you're right, Microsoft could right now be persuaded by a court order, and I can guarantee you they wouldn't say no if those anti-privacy bills passed since they're probably gettin paid by the NSA.[citation needed]


What is Microsoft going to do with all this miniscule information that you are so afraid of? Like I said, they want to stay in business and stay on the good side of the law. Any sort of misuse of data would result in pretty much a destruction of Microsoft in general, both legally and with revenue. Not to mention that also makes it extremely important for them to be secure with it, rather than have it something any old hacker can grab.
First off:
I'm not scared of anything. If I was scared of the NSA I would be huddled in a corner balling, because they're goddamn everywhere, even in Canada, look up bill C-51.too.

Second: Companies like Microsoft know very well how to keep employees in line. Ever heard of a big source code leak from microsoft? Nope. (Save for the DOS code leak, but that's a different story) Another clue to this is that most of the employees that actually code it don't get all the code: They only work on individual modules.[citation needed, I'll get it later] Then they hire someone to build servers, and then promptly remove them, and then they hire someone to install the code, making sure with extra security that they don't take anything. Nothing's foolproof of course, this leaves plenty of room for the higher-ups or sysadmins to abuse things as they see fit. This is all just a theory of course, but my point is they have ways to keep people in line.

Contracts for hiring can be pretty scary, if you're that high up at Microsoft if you disclose anything you risk having everything you own taken away and being thrown in jail indefinitely. That's more than enough to keep the vast majority of people, malicious or not, from abusing it.

Thing is, with the amount of money Microsoft has they can cover up pretty much anything they want unless it's so utterly catastrophic that the media makes a firestorm out of it. A news station more than likely wouldn't report on a single persons data getting leaked, given that thousands of people get investigateed every day, especially if there isn't hard proof that it was due to a high-up in Microsoft abusing the data-collection system, which would more than likely be the case. The people at Microsoft more than likely aren't that stupid.

But, they would definitely cover if thousands or millions got leaked. Investors and stock holders however wouldn't care as long as they're still making money (Something I hate about them), and the general public doesn't seem to be too concerned about their privacy anyway which is highly disappointing, only 3 people in this thread that I could see are actually holding back from windows 10 because of it. If the people aren't against it, nothing will happen.

If you never take any risks, especially tiny ones like this, you will miss out on a lot. If you're truly scared of this data collection, you can turn it all off. Or miss out on all the perks Windows 10 brings out.
I do take risks, bigger ones than these, and quite clearly Microsoft has given no way to turn off the quote . I suspect there's no way to do it.

The only real perks of Windows 10 that I can see myself really liking is that it has Cortana, which would be quite nice but the mere way it's programmed is also an invasion of privacy given that it sends all its info to Microsoft. I've lived almost 19 years without it, I can go longer. I needed an excuse to switch to Linux anyways.

Also, the information collected isn't the pictures on your hard drive or cloud, it's primarily system specifications and error reporting.


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It isn't a rumor. If you install Windows 10, Microsoft will have access to your private files. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/privacy/privacy/policy/privacy-policy/

They more than likely won't access it unless they're fed a court order or CISA passes, however I still don't want them to have the ability to snoop in my private data.

i will upgrade to windows 10, but not at the moment

I'm excited! I finally have Windows 10 (I've had for awhile now) and I can browse now through my PC, everything is normal and Windows 10 is here, on my PC!

Man, I think Edge might be my new main browser...

Have fun staying on Windows 7 till 2020 ipquarx, honestly though what are you hiding some nasty stuff in your computer or something?


They only snoop in your computer if you have a court order, and unless you get into shady stuff you have nothing to worry about.

i dont think i could ever move to edge fulltime, i've gotten to used to chrome intergrating with my phone/tablet

Have fun staying on Windows 7 till 2020 ipquarx, honestly though what are you hiding some nasty stuff in your computer or something?


They only snoop in your computer if you have a court order, and unless you get into shady stuff you have nothing to worry about.
people with concerns=/=windows 7 users