Paris Massacre: 4+ shootings, 3+ kamikaze, 1 hostage taking: Atleast 129 dead

[Darryl McKoy]

Okay to be truthful you're right, I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that CIA is purposely going out of their way to make people hate them by murdering people, and that by hating them you're playing into their hands?

They're going out of their way to make people marginalise the muslim community. By people marginalising the muslim community, it's much easier to radicalise youth and turn them against the communities that have now marginalised them.

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[ShadowsfeaR]

They're going out of their way to make people marginalise the muslim community. By people marginalising the muslim community, it's much easier to radicalise youth and turn them against the communities that have now marginalised them.

Laymans: They get everyone to hate the race so that they get the youth of that race to join their cause to retaliate.

[[GSF]Ghost]

They're going out of their way to make people marginalise the muslim community. By people marginalising the muslim community, it's much easier to radicalise youth and turn them against the communities that have now marginalised them.

I haven't see anyone convert to Isalm or CIA by painting Muslims as the victim though. I could be wrong, but I mainly see people converting to the religion based on how they are treated by Islamic Muslims trying to convert them - they go out of their way to be respectful, friendly, inviting, etc., but aren't consistently like that.

[Rally]

They're going out of their way to make people marginalise the muslim community. By people marginalising the muslim community, it's much easier to radicalise youth and turn them against the communities that have now marginalised them.

That might be true but you can't blame people for speaking out in anger after abominations like this happen. I'll admit that most of my disposition against Muslims is just pure unbridled rage. I feel so loving helpless. So many people have already been murdered in the name of their religion and I'm just supposed to tolerate that? Yeah I don't hate every Muslim I meet (going back on what I said earlier(not really)) because I understand that most of them are very mild but I'd be a liar if I thought the ideology as a whole is backward and detrimental to a civilized society. I think it's crazy that even after 150 innocent people are killed in broad daylight by jihadists that we're still so caught up in "don't offend the poor muslims". It just allows it to continue happening. Natural selection I guess. Just wish I had a say in it.

I think if people were just completely tolerant of Islam even after terrorist attacks like this, then CIA would just recruit them through social media anyway.

Laymans: They get everyone to hate the race so that they get the youth of that race to join their cause to retaliate.

But Islam isn't a race. If the youth of a certain religion felt 'marginalized' because of mass disposition against their religion why wouldn't they drop the religion?

[Darryl McKoy]

I think if people were just completely tolerant of Islam even after terrorist attacks like this, then CIA would just recruit them through social media anyway.

No doubt, there after all will always be youth who feel like they don't belong and can easily be marginalised. There's no denying however that a general disdain towards muslims only worsens the situation, it does nothing to solve it.

But Islam isn't a race. If the youth of a certain religion felt 'marginalized' because of mass disposition against their religion why wouldn't they drop the religion?

Because it's part of their identity? You can't honestly expect that response from any religious person.

[DJ Charizard]

It's cliche to say I don't want to live on this planet anymore, but honestly I do. 6 catastrophic events taking place all in one day. It's a world filled with terror, confusion, death, and evil. Hopefully we can put a stop being terrorism, being the fact that now a majority of UN members are ready to fight for each other. As a young boy I dreamt of peace and love, but today I see the world as it truly is.

[Harm94]

From what I heard, the attackers blamed the French president and did what they did for the lack of intervention against Assad. This has yet to be confirmed, but a strange turn of events if that be the case.

[ShadowsfeaR]

It's cliche to say I don't want to live on this planet anymore, but honestly I do. 6 catastrophic events taking place all in one day. It's a world filled with terror, confusion, death, and evil. Hopefully we can put a stop being terrorism, being the fact that now a majority of UN members are ready to fight for each other. As a young boy I dreamt of peace and love, but today I see the world as it truly is.

I didn't hear about the other attacks in the seperate countries until a few minutes ago, what's happening?

[Rally]

No doubt, there after all will always be youth who feel like they don't belong and can easily be marginalised. There's no denying however that a general disdain towards muslims only worsens the situation, it does nothing to solve it.

But what helps the situation? If extremists are the Achaeans then Islam is the trojan horse. I doubt I'd like to live in a world where people are lawfully persecuted for their religion but I don't see a method of suppressing extremist Islam that doesn't start with Islam.

Because it's part of their identity? You can't honestly expect that response from any religious person.

It's the response I've gotten from many atheists I know, that they dropped their religion because they didn't feel like practicing it, felt that it was too bigoted, ect. That's a personal anecdote but I can understand what you're saying, especially with young adults being highly persecuted in orthodox places like the middle east for converting but here in the first world I imagine it'd be relatively easy to separate yourself from a religion that you are outraged by.

But, forget it. I couldn't convert to atheism purely out of fear and guilt, and I guess these people are the same. But the problem is people are still converting and children are still being taught Islam and I think that's a problem.

[DJ Charizard]

I didn't hear about the other attacks in the seperate countries until a few minutes ago, what's happening?

Earthquakes in Mexico and japan, Self Delete  bombing in Beirut, funeral bombed in Baghdad, and the Paris attacks.

[ShadowsfeaR]

Earthquakes in Mexico and japan, Self Delete  bombing in Beirut, funeral bombed in Baghdad, and the Paris attacks.

Jesus loving christ, this is something out of a movie.

[WaterOre]

According to the rapidly-changing Wikipedia article, the estimated casualties has fallen from the title's 150+ killed to 120+ injured killed, counting the eight terrorists.

87 of the deaths occurred at the Bataclan Theater, 11 at the restraunt, and 5 at the bar. 8 of the dead were the ones causing the attacks; from my understanding, 6 of them blew themselves up, and a seventh was shot, then blew up.

At least one of the people killed was a Swedish national.

EDIT: Fixed a typo. The number of injured is over 200.

EDIT 2: CNN is reporting at least 153 dead. I don't know what's right, maybe there will be more concrete statistics tomorrow.

EDIT 3: Reddit is reporting a total death toll of 158 through The Guardian. Here's a little French flag you guys can put in your signatures if you want.

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[Darryl McKoy]

But what helps the situation? If extremists are the Achaeans then Islam is the trojan horse. I doubt I'd like to live in a world where people are lawfully persecuted for their religion but I don't see a method of suppressing extremist Islam that doesn't start with Islam.

Keeping the wider muslim community on-side helps the situation. They are at the front line, and we need their cooperation to combat this. We need to work with them to understand further under what conditions they feel people are being radicalised. We need their support to find extremists hiding amongst their community, and remove those who seek to radicalise others.

I really doubt we have any capacity at all to effectively 'beat' extremism without the support of the muslim community, and we're certainly not going to get it while so many people seek to alienate them. Most global leaders know this, which is why they rush to emphasise that we should not let events like this divide the community.

[SystemctOS]

What a world we live in am I right?

[Toxicology]

11/13 never baguette
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