Internet privacy in the US is about to come to an end.

[Red Spy]

I always laugh at how the US thinks they can 100% stop all terrorism.

Like seriously, there's always going to be a crazy group of people who kill and blow stuff up and whatnot. They're never going to stop all cases of it. That's impossible. The best they can hope for is to stop most of it.maybe build a massive wall idk

Plus I don't want the feds to know what research I watched last week

[Ad Bot]

[mario0126]

I got one question, are you allowed to block these people from watching all of your stuff?
Also does this Internet spying thingy take performance away?

I just always wanted to question those.

[Pecon]

I got one question, are you allowed to block these people from watching all of your stuff?

That would sorta defeat the purpose of it, wouldn't it? I think if government spying had an 'opt-out' button we would all just use that.

Also does this Internet spying thingy take performance away?

This doesn't make much sense but I'll assume you're asking if the spying makes the internet slower. No.

[XR-7]

So here's two related questions I have:

1. Is this an entire Internet sort of spying, or is just for Americans who use the Internet?

2. If someone in another country is using a VPN based in the USA, will the government be able to spy on their activity?

[sir dooble]

Well, the US already spies on all its allies anyway so it doesn't make too much difference if this only gives them rights to spy on Americans or not.


I've not read the bill, but I assume it is actually power to take collected data of US companies, like Google, Facebook, Apple, phone-service providers, ISPs, etc...
So if they have data from their foreign customers then the US probably gets that too.

[Ipquarx]

So here's two related questions I have:

1. Is this an entire Internet sort of spying, or is just for Americans who use the Internet?

2. If someone in another country is using a VPN based in the USA, will the government be able to spy on their activity?

1. The thing about the internet is that it's basically impossible to actually discern where internet traffic really comes from and where its intended final destination is. So instead of investing precious time and resources into using any number of flawed methods of finding out where traffic comes from and tracking it based on that, they'll spy on anything that they can get their hands on, including foreign traffic.

2. Depends on a bunch of factors. First and foremost, is the VPN you're using sending all that information directly to the government? Because with this bill, unless they're extremely diligent with their legal team, they'll have to. And if they are, then it's absolutely no different from not using one at all, save your IP address being different.

Second, are you using encryption? Because if not, the government can just take your data anyways. The data has to get to you somehow, and if all the lines going to you are tapped (quite likely) then you need to be using strong encryption to protect that data.

If you can find a VPN that has both of these qualities, then chances are much much higher that your information is secure.

[Bear_Tracks]

Related story: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/did-your-senator-vote-for-cisa?trk_source=recommended

EXCERPT: "The only presidential candidate to vote on the legislation was Bernie Sanders, who voted against it."

Wow, at least Sanders took a stand voting against the bill.

[Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph]

there arent cops down the street looking at what research youre watching or what movies youre pirating

[Ipquarx]

there arent cops down the street looking at what research youre watching or what movies youre pirating

except that there are already ISPs that will cut off your service if you pirate movies/music (ahemComcastahem)

[shitlord]

except that there are already ISPs that will cut off your service if you pirate movies/music (ahemComcastahem)

wow its almost like they will stop what you're doing if its illegal

[Ipquarx]

wow its almost like they will stop what you're doing if its illegal

wow its almost like they still invade your privacy regardless of whether or not they have evidence of you doing illegal things to tell IF you are pirating movies

[SlayerZ99]

wow its almost like they still invade your privacy regardless of whether or not they have evidence of you doing illegal things to tell IF you are pirating movies

Your ISP has that right???
You know when you agree to a contract with the company you sign it and it says they can do that...

It was the same thing with all the people on Facebook sharing something like "Facebook doesn't have the right to my information"
Uh...yeah they do says it right when you sign up for facebook

[Riot]

Or make it easier for smart people to get into power

Like Squid here, he likes power.

[Bear_Tracks]

I always laugh at how the US thinks they can 100% stop all terrorism.

Like seriously, there's always going to be a crazy group of people who kill and blow stuff up and whatnot. They're never going to stop all cases of it. That's impossible. The best they can hope for is to stop most of it.maybe build a massive wall idk

Plus I don't want the feds to know what research I watched last week

It can be done. It just requires communities to report any person within their community who has become radicalized and has expressed their positive feelings about CIA/Al-Qaeda or their want to go to Syria to fight with CIA. It's not that hard, a lot of it requires these Muslim communities to start speaking up.

For example, the father of the male shooter of the San Bernadino terrorist attack knew all about his son's radicalized ideas, even encouraged them.

[Riot]

I have friends who immediately blamed the French for being liberal after the attacks.
However I don't see liberalism and conservatism as an answer to these problems. I just don't think you can solve a problem with two extremes. They're just hitting a nail back a forth on both sides of their wall. That's not how US should do, but it still do.