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several pages in after someone brings up the individual mandate and everyone seems to be just pointing fingers and not getting into the details (my apologies if im wrong about this, its merely what im observing from skimming over each of the last 5 pages)

from my understanding, the individual mandate was put in place not as a form of "punishment" for people as if the government was "forcing" everyone to get health insurance (hence why a lot of rednecks and super-conservatives scream socialism when they hear obamacare), but rather that it was implemented to help offset the costs associated with the pre-existing conditions clause (which was put into place to help people who are sick and dying get healthcare; this is good if you believe a person's need for healthcare is more important than a health insurance company's need for snatching a quick buck). the existence of the pre-existing conditions clause makes insurance companies respond by raising their insurance prices since they'd be forced to insure lots of sick people who are a huge financial risk for the insurance companies; the idea was then to institute the individual mandate to force young people to get health insurance - not for the sake of socialism - but to offset the number of sick and high-risk people on healthcare by adding lots of young and healthy low-risk people to the insurance care pool. it's a fairly logical idea.

however, i can say that the individual mandate unfortunately wasn't enough to fix the rising healthcare costs obamacare has brought with it. my family's healthcare costs have quadrupled since obamacare was first implemented. maybe lots of people can get health insurance now, and that's good for them, but it definitely has made many other people's situations worse.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2017, 06:47:17 PM by Planr »

exactly, that and it's debatably unconstitutional to force people to buy a private service

oh please, if you had your way we'd all be slaves for the private service

exactly, that and it's debatably unconstitutional to force people to buy a private service
well it's mandated that everyone has to buy accident liability insurance in order to drive. i havent seen you ever talk about that. just saying

exactly, that and it's debatably unconstitutional to force people to buy a private service
all the more reason to switch to single-payer system. ACA is a temporary band-aid covering a much more grievous issue with market-based healthcare anyway.


all the more reason to switch to single-payer system. ACA is a temporary band-aid covering a much more grievous issue with market-based healthcare anyway.


just curious, what do you mean by single-payer system? do you mean that only government would offer healthcare (eg. all insurance and hospitals are controlled by the government)? also yeah market-based healthcare is a problem.

just curious, what do you mean by single-payer system? do you mean that only government would offer healthcare (eg. all insurance and hospitals are controlled by the government)? also yeah market-based healthcare is a problem.

Yes, gov't provides healthcare to all citizens paid through taxes.

It costs less than the current mess of a system we have in the US

Disgusting commie forgets try to appropriate our healthcare system to starve everyone of the right to seek medical assistance

Nice loving try Bernouts

Disgusting commie forgets try to appropriate our healthcare system to starve everyone of the right to seek medical assistance

Nice loving try Bernouts

Once again you're wrong

Disgusting commie forgets try to appropriate our healthcare system to starve everyone of the right to seek medical assistance
I think we broke Deus Ex. We've turned him into Beachbum :(


I think we broke Deus Ex. We've turned him into Beachbum :(

that's a gross comparison


at least beachbum is consistent in making an arguable point

Once again you're wrong

If i could go back in time and punch your mother in the ovaries I'd have love with her instead just so I can tell you to shut up I'm your father and it's time for bed'

I think we broke Deus Ex. We've turned him into Beachbum :(

Silence shillwich

where is Universal Healthcare-chan to make nerds care about people

lol shillwich thats a good one