POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[e-maxx]

don't have to pay taxes if you sling dope

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[Cappytaino]

Besides, do you really think a trained medical professional can't recognize someone lying about their symptoms? They dont just hand out highly addictive drugs to just anybody who acts sick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_shopping

Law enforcement officers spend a significant amount of time investigating cases involving prescription fraud, many of which also involve insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid fraud.[7]

abuse of social welfare and abuse of medical prescriptions go hand in hand

[Tactical Nuke]

Besides, do you really think a trained medical professional can't recognize someone lying about their symptoms? They dont just hand out highly addictive drugs to just anybody who acts sick.

except they totally do and you're full of stuff

[PhantOS]

part of the 'here take this opioid to cure everything' is the lack of government regulation and potential shilling of big pharma. doctors are literally paid to hand highly addictive drugs to just anybody who acts sick. it's definitely a waste of resources and dangerous for the individual

this is definitely something that absolutely needs to be overhauled and will be an objectively good change

[Karl Marx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_shopping

abuse of social welfare and abuse of medical prescriptions go hand in hand

Drug addiction is still a separate issue from universal healthcare. If you're seriously insisting that we should deny access to healthcare for millions just to prevent some addicts, who should be rehabilitated and removed from poverty regardless, from exploiting a system that could easily be reformed to prevent this, you might actually be delusional.

[Tactical Nuke]

nice to know you're perfectly fine subsidizing crack-whores, Kimon

[Karl Marx]

nice to know you're perfectly fine subsidizing crack-whores, Kimon

Make a better argument or get lost.

[PhantOS]

nice to know you're perfectly fine subsidizing crack-whores, Kimon

once again, paying a fraction of a cent every month to keep every crack addict alive is definitely worth it

[Deus Ex]

because taxes hold society together and allow a godly amount of security for the majority of people. a world without people being forced to hold up society is a world where people hold up themselves, aka the libertarian anarchy dystopia

That's nice and all but health insurance isn't a right that needs to be maintained by the government. Private citizens and corporations should be able to decide for themselves if they want to pay for health insurance or not. They shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's cancer, diabetes, or whatever tearjerker disease treatments.

You literally just dismissed all forms of taxes
Enjoy your anarchy

You're equating taxing to ensure the function of a government to taxing to ensure everyone has a commodity. Health insurance isn't a right. And it shouldn't be. We all have the right to health care. Hospitals cannot deny someone care except under certain circumstances. What we don't have the right to is having that care be paid for by other people. What's next, are we gonna start subsidizing internet access? Single payer cable? I gotta start paying for people who want HBO and all that fancy stuff so we can all have the same service?

are you telling me people should die because some dirtbags don't want to shill out an extra five bucks a month

No one "should" die but it's hardly our faults for not wanting to pay for their health insurance. It's not our faults they're in that situation and it's not our responsibility to get them out of it just because we live in the same company. I'd honestly argue that the only demographic who's health insurance should be paid for in full are veterans. Everyone else hasn't done anything to deserve the rest of us being taxed up the ass to take care of them. I'd rather take that extra five bucks and by myself a happy meal.

once again, paying a fraction of a cent every month to keep every crack addict alive is definitely worth it

No it isn't

[Doughboy]

love my nhs, me

[PhantOS]

That's nice and all but health insurance isn't a right that needs to be maintained by the government. Private citizens and corporations should be able to decide for themselves if they want to pay for health insurance or not. They shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's cancer, diabetes, or whatever tearjerker disease treatments.

this same argument can be used against any other subsidy or tax-funded service in existence. roads aren't a right either, yet, like health care, they are objectively beneficial for the good of society and removing them is shooting yourself in the foot with passion

the point of taxes is to make sure people pay them regardless of their opinion on the matter. if we all just say 'forget it lets selectively pay taxes for whatever we want' society will collapse

[Deus Ex]

this same argument can be used against any other subsidy or tax-funded service in existence. roads aren't a right either, yet, like health care, they are objectively beneficial for the good of society and removing them is shooting yourself in the foot with passion

the point of taxes is to make sure people pay them regardless of their opinion on the matter. if we all just say 'forget it lets selectively pay taxes for whatever we want' society will collapse

That's not the point of taxes? You ever hear of taxation without representation? The forget.

Roads aren't a right but it's the government's job to maintain infrastructure on both a state and federal level. It is not the government's job to make sure everyone is insured for healthcare.

[Ipquarx]

You're equating taxing to ensure the function of a government to taxing to ensure everyone has a commodity.

No, I took what you said, which was, and I quote, "trying to force other people to pay for other people's stuff," and told you that that is literally what taxes are
You are paying for government workers salary, for example. That is "other people's stuff." You are being forced to pay for other people's stuff right now. Someone probably used some of your tax money to buy a blow up doll or a hooker. The direct implication of your statement was that this "paying for other people's stuff" is bad and you wish for it not to happen.

For that to occur there has to be no taxes, and if there are no taxes there is no government. At all. That is literally anarchy.

[PhantOS]

you could claim taxation without representation if the government seized all your property, your right to vote and then continued taxing you. the very fact that your house is built with materials that were mined on taxdollar money, transported on taxdollar money, and the very food you ingest was processed and inspected by taxdollar money just so you can enjoy it doesn't equate to taxation without representation.

and yes, if nobody was paying taxes for healthcare, the drivers, builders, miners & inspectors that all processed all that stuff would probably be either broke, suffering, or with 5% chance, perfectly healthy. nobody wants to pay taxes for your stuff, and i doubt you want to pay taxes for ours. sadly, our society can't function without it. so if you want to every man for himself & duke it out in the forest with no medicine, infrastructure or people to help you obtain any of those things, by all means go ahead

[Master Matthew²]

Just passing by to say I love President Annoying Orange and CNN can choke on a nothing burger.
Seriously though, forget the FCC chairman, what a richardhead.