Real Talk: What should the world do about terrorism (CIA, etc.)? [Organized OP]

[otto-san]

i'm sure the people that literally convince themselves that they are another made up 'gender' have mental disorders that disallow them to interact in normal social environments. if they feel insecure about being called a man or a woman then they should probably seek mental help.

you're not totally wrong but it's maybe not what you expect. if people can be comfortable in their identity without feeling social pressure then there's not really a problem

if you see some guy walking around saying 'I'm a fox' are you going to treat him like a fox just to make him feel good? these people don't need special treatment, they need special help. it doesn't harm anybody directly but it sure as hell harms society if people accept this.

saying you're a fox probably isn't considered a gender identity lol

[Ad Bot]

[C-Zech Chrome Ind.]

There's the:
snake
Vagina
Horrible mixture of both that results in death after birth

and that's likely it for genders.

You cut off your toe and it grows into another human being of course.  Being a trans-dimentional-quadruple-buffered-krypton-powered-lizard-seaanenome, that's just from my point of view.

I don't think this is a serious topic anymore.  Jokes aside, we all know that these people require help from multiple disciplines of science, not simply neurology and psychology but also gene therapy to set right what should have been there.

[Jairo]

is monday a gender

on tumblr it is

[Akio-]

saying you're a fox probably isn't considered a gender identity lol

come one man you had to realize that i was using it as an example. using made up genders and that are interchangeable because they are both total bs and you have to be mentally inept to think it's true. i hope you got the point i was trying to express from that though since you seemed to just completely not read it.

is monday a gender

probably

you're not totally wrong but it's maybe not what you expect. if people can be comfortable in their identity without feeling social pressure then there's not really a problem

i'm not referring to transloveuality. that's a real thing. i'm referring to people making up 'gender'. why do we use the word gender? can't we just use love? people are abusing it too much.

[otto-san]

come one man you had to realize that i was using it as an example. using made up genders and that are interchangeable because they are both total bs and you have to be mentally inept to think it's true. i hope you got the point i was trying to express from that though since you seemed to just completely not read it.

i understood it was an example, i was just saying that it wasn't an example of a gender identity

unless i'm misunderstanding and the question isn't about gender identity

i'm not referring to transloveuality. that's a real thing. i'm referring to people making up 'gender'. why do we use the word gender? can't we just use love? people are abusing it too much.

because gender and love fundamentally refer to different things in non-casual contexts. gender always refers to something abstract, whether it's cultural or psychological. it's definitely not a made-up idea, it's part of the way that we describe societies and people

[Akio-]

unless i'm misunderstanding and the question isn't about gender identity??

actual gender identity is male / female which is transloveuality. completely changing your body like tranloveual people do (take hormones and have surgery to literally become the gender) should not at ALL be compared to people making up stuff and just saying they are these things.

I'm going to reiterate here but i think you're abusing the word 'gender' here in a sense.

because gender and love fundamentally refer to different things in non-casual contexts. gender always refers to something abstract, whether it's cultural or psychological. it's definitely not a made-up idea, it's part of the way that we describe societies and people

i've never heard this explanation before but it sounds like bs tumblr propagation more than anything else.

i don't understand. are you saying that i can say my gender is a space alien female and that it makes me who i am just because i think i am? you must call me 'xim' because i think I'm a space alien? i'm pretty sure convincing yourself that you're something you aren't is actually called being mentally forgeted. not being a different 'gender'.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Depends on what you're asking here
The whole "50 different genders" thing is excessive special snowflake-ism
But there's no reason not to believe that differences in brain developments or hormones or whatever could cause someone to feel different than the genitals they have, especially when there's a legit diagnosis for more progressed (not sure if that's the right word here but I can't think of a better one) cases. Refusing to accept that someone could have a snake, yet feel female, is just crying "wahh i refuse to learn new things"

I know your title is addressing the former, but there's always people (MoltenKitten) that throw the latter in there as well

if you see some guy walking around saying 'I'm a fox' are you going to treat him like a fox just to make him feel good? these people don't need special treatment, they need special help. it doesn't harm anybody directly but it sure as hell harms society if people accept this.

This is a terrible brown townogy because both male and female are actual things a person can be, all it takes is a hormone change in the womb, but there's no hormone that can turn a human into a fox

[Akio-]

Depends on what you're asking here
The whole "50 different genders" thing is excessive special snowflake-ism
But there's no reason not to believe that differences in brain developments or hormones or whatever could cause someone to feel different than the genitals they have, especially when there's a legit diagnosis for more progressed (not sure if that's the right word here but I can't think of a better one) cases. Refusing to accept that someone could have a snake, yet feel female, is just crying "wahh i refuse to learn new things"
This is a terrible brown townogy because both male and female are actual things a person can be, all it takes is a hormone change in the womb, but there's no hormone that can turn a human into a fox

i think you are taking my post as condemning transgenderism which i'm not at all.  i'm referring exclusively to people trying to be things that are physically impossible for them to be. thats why i used a fox brown townogy.

[otto-san]

i'm not trying to defend the definition of "space alien" or "attack helicopter" or "coca-cola bottle" as a gender, because they aren't genders. if that's what we're talking about, i'm on your side of the fence. those kinds of things would be in some other part of your "self-identity" or w/e

i've never heard this explanation before but it sounds like bs tumblr propagation more than anything else.

defo isn't. i'm basically paraphrasing stuff from my high school sociology class there.

i thought we were just talking about non-binary stuff lol

[Akio-]

i thought we were just talking about non-binary stuff lol

I'm regarding the 'demigender' stuff.

[Bester Bageler]

I do not believe there are more than two genders. However do bear with me when I explain my following thought: If a girl lived in a Spanish speaking country she would be referred to as "ella" but in english speaking countries she would be referred to as "she." Would you go and tell her that she was speaking incorrectly while talking in spanish? No of course not, she is still a girl but she is simply be referred to as ella. There might be only two genders but there is much more than two simple sets of pronouns. Language is very complicated and has been developed over thousands of years, is there a chance that in some odd parallel world a guy is called a girl and a girl is called a guy? This would not change whom they are but simply what they are called. If someone wants to be referred to by a different gender then they are why shouldn't you oblige? Protesting will get you nowhere and will not change their opinions, calling them by a different gender then they are does not change their actual love. I feel if someone would like to be referred to by a gender that does not correspond to their love you should do as they wish. In the end you lose nothing and it helps make that person feel more comfortable.

In conclusion: No there are not more then two genders, but if someone wants to be referred to by a different set of pronouns: don't be a richard, man up and call them what they asked.

[Taciturn]

I think you're both talking about different things. You clearly have a different understanding of what gender even means.

I mean Otto and akio

Just let them have their own ideas of their own gender. They aren't threatening your way of life or anything.

[Headcrab Zombie]

i think you are taking my post as condemning transgenderism which i'm not at all.

I'm not really specifically addressing you, just the title. I added another sentence in the middle, which it looks like you missed, since I editted it in probably after you clicked quote.

i'm referring exclusively to people trying to be things that are physically impossible for them to be. thats why i used a fox brown townogy.

So you mean the special snowflake-ism 50 genders thing then? I don't even know what such a thing would physically look like, so yeah...

[otto-san]

I'm regarding the 'demigender' stuff.

yeah that's definitely not stuff like identifying as a bionicle figure (http://nonbinary.org/wiki/Demigender)

you're thinkin of otherkin, which is a bit off of my sjw scale lol

[Akio-]

yeah i know that. it's what i'm referring to.

also i haven't seen anything about bionicles in years. thank you for reminding me it exists