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[Perry]

Same thing goes for you, Path. Stop kidding yourself, it's obnoxious and sad.

exuse me? I take responsibility for what I've done in the past and I discontinue the behavior. I'm not kidding myself either. If you're hardwired to be a richard to people you'll likely never change or try to change unless some mystical divine event occurs in your life. Never did I say "people don't change stop telling him to change" I'm just presenting my two cents on why bedpost in particular shouldn't be trusted to change at this juncture. Sure, he'll mature one day (or not) and see what's up, but this doesn't happen overnight.

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[Gytyyhgfffff]

objectively phanto has changed due to him being a blhack user previously and him actually stopping his old ways and attempting to become a better person

[IkeTheGeneric]

I take responsibility for what I've done in the past and I discontinue the behavior.

Yeah right, you came crawling out of the woodwork the minute you got a chance to stuff on bedpost. Couldn't help yourself from prodding the annoying kid into lashing back and then saying this is normal behavior and patting yourself on the back after he feels cornered and started acting like a fool again. The only thing that's changed from now and then is that blhack.dll stopped working properly and you got caught. It's sad that you're acting like the washed up voice of reason, that's what I meant by kidding yourself.

Anyways, the kid's a dumbass, but he isn't hardwired to be a bad person. To even imply that would be giving them validation for his behavior, that somehow he isn't being kicked out for stuffting on the carpet again, but rather because he's being churned out because of how he's hardwired. This is why it's stupid to misuse the "problem user" label, because it gives implication of this dirty dozen lineup of the nefarious bad guys, not a bunch of insecure dolts who haven't figured out how to act like decent people.

I'm still convinced everyone acted like a stuff in Eon's drama. It's just odd how this one time it was so abhorrent that a problem user drama somebody for posting shock images in discords. "Not a drama-able" offense you all cried, and then acted shocked when the dumb problem user started reciprocating abuse. I don't like Bedpost as much as the next dude but everyone went to staggering levels of mental gymnastics to justify the double standards. If it was anyone else that posted the drama topic, it wouldn't have been a problem.

[Perry]

Yeah right, you came crawling out of the woodwork the minute you got a chance to stuff on bedpost. Couldn't help yourself from prodding the annoying kid into lashing back and then saying this is normal behavior and patting yourself on the back after he feels cornered and started acting like a fool again. The only thing that's changed from now and then is that blhack.dll stopped working properly and you got caught. It's sad that you're acting like the washed up voice of reason, that's what I meant by kidding yourself.

Is it me crawling out of the woodwork when i'm essentially agreeing with someone else on a user i particularly hate for stuff that he's said to me in the past? Is it me just trying to satisfy some invisible hate boner so i feel better about myself? Do you really see me as so much of an opportunist that I have zero remorse and am just fueled by attention?

I got banned long before Blhack stopped working. After that point I could've easily connected with Computermix and gotten another copy. Yes, I did hack at one point and I made the consious choice to NOT hack anymore. I stopped being malicious not because I wanted to improve my image but because I realized how much of a richard I was being by hacking. I don't cheat or use exploits for that exact reason.

I'm not trying be a loving voice of reason. I'm simply stating that Bedpost is NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON TO CHANGE. I even openly admitted that i'm still annoying according to many people. Hell, i'd still put myself on the list of malicious users. However, I understand right from wrong, which is why I actively stopped being a richard. There's no incentive that I run on that gives me free candy whenever I do something right; I just prefer to be a nice person now instead of being bitter and trying to ruin the game for others.


If Bedpost wants to stop now then he'll stop, and everything will get better for him. I have honest doubts that he'll change for the better. You can also have honest doubts that I changed over the last couple of years, and i'll respect that. It doesn't change my opinion on the matter at all.

[patton360]

i'm actually going to support path here in saying his behavior has actually improved quite a bit. bedpost hasn't at all

[IkeTheGeneric]

i'm actually going to support path here in saying his behavior has actually improved quite a bit. bedpost hasn't at all

You're also guilty of the same peanut gallery bullstuff path does. This is what I mean, you and path have absolutely no credence in my opinion.

[Perry]

You're also guilty of the same peanut gallery bullstuff path does. This is what I mean, you and path have absolutely no credence in my opinion.

What the hell are you even saying at this point? Are you trying to say that because we did the same exact thing as bedpost we are no longer qualified to provide our opinions? Sure, I agree that I've done some sus stuff in the past including spamming servers, hacking, etc.

I'm simply agreeing with other people on the topic. It's not like i'm objectively wrong to say that bedpost hasn't improved thus far. And yes, I do have a say on this topic, since I have the capability to reason just as well as the next person. Just because I made mistakes in the past and improved since then doesn't mean i'm automatically banned from providing any opinions on the matter.

[Red Spy]

whoa, since when does red spy write more than a paragraph?

i'm quite surprised myself tbh

Thank u

[Drydess]

phanto has changed a whole lot, you can just look at the latest posts on his path and phantOS accounts to see an obvious difference
bedpost hasn't changed in the years he's been on here, and has continued to show he doesn't want to change

Thank u

yw

[-Dave]

I understand both sides of this argument, for one, we can't be self-righteous.


We've all done crap, but if someone changes their ways, the past is the past, we gotta forgive eventually.


However, if someone refuses to stop their behavior, then we have a serious problem. That's why we're calling Notorious out, at least for me, I'm not doing it to find a guy to point my finger to. I'm simply calling him out as anyone should. That's what we're supposed to do, when someone is being an idiot, confront him about it, if he doesn't change, let him go or push him away from the group. At least until he decides to change his crap, until then, we shall(hopefully) never let him back.

[Drydess]

I understand both sides of this argument, for one, we can't be self-righteous.


We've all done crap, but if someone changes their ways, the past is the past, we gotta forgive eventually.


However, if someone refuses to stop their behavior, then we have a serious problem. That's why we're calling Notorious out, at least for me, I'm not doing it to find a guy to point my finger to. I'm simply calling him out as anyone should. That's what we're supposed to do, when someone is being an idiot, confront him about it, if he doesn't change, let him go or push him away from the group. At least until he decides to change his crap, until then, we shall(hopefully) never let him back.

the past is a problem but it's not the problem
he still acts just as stuffty as before

[KristoB]

i'm actually going to support path here in saying his behavior has actually improved quite a bit. bedpost hasn't at all

[Notorious B.I.G.]

The reason I act like an idiot is because half the forums calls me an idiot and then proceed to simply bash me for attempting to show an idiot on the forums. Freek, Clownfish, etc. ignore anything I say and simply resort to being dismissive and bashing me. I can't change if half of the forums wants to act like loving idiots to me and pull an 'ALT' card and continue to spam stupid stuff. smh, you guys should have been banned already for dismissive stuff.

[Notorious B.I.G.]

Oh, and Path has changed. He's a pretty cool dude IG and on the forums too.

[Malleo100]

Freek, Clownfish, etc. ignore anything I say and simply resort to being dismissive and bashing me.