Nintendo Switch Presentation - January 12th

[Insert Name Here²]

most of those games are made by companies who make subpar optimisation decisions.

Lmfao

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[Trogtor]

Do you even know what the word "optimisation" actually means, outside of a gamer buzzword? And even so, how can you make such a giant assessment? What do you know about those companies there?

yes i do to an extent and in fact you explained it to me once with the whole uncoordination with ubisoft.

Lmfao

well then? you got something to say boy?


nintendo is doing the exact same thing they did with the wiiu. making a console to fit the current generation several years late. im excited for the switch, I'm definitely getting one. but to be honest id have rather them put more into it and have it cost more instead of what it currently is and being 300 bucks.

[otto-san]

i don't think the switch is meant to be the successor to the wii u, tho i don't really know if it's necessarily the successor to the 3DS either

[Shift Kitty]

yes i do to an extent and in fact you explained it to me once with the whole uncoordination with ubisoft.

yeah, those ubisoft games like titanfall, shadow of mordor, and call of duty

nintendo is doing the exact same thing they did with the wiiu. making a console to fit the current generation several years late. im excited for the switch, I'm definitely getting one. but to be honest id have rather them put more into it and have it cost more instead of what it currently is and being 300 bucks.

they have a very, very wide target audience. that also means it has to be affordable for that wide audience.

[otto-san]

also, i'm going to chance to say that most consumers aren't going to actually care too too much that their zelda game plays at 900p on a console that they can play on the bus. if you're a hardcore gamerman that really cares about getting the full console experience, the wii u version is still coming out, which will be higher fidelity and i expect probably in 1080p

[Insert Name Here²]

wouldn't the Wii U version be in 720p along with being the same performance or less? iirc the Switch's hardware specs are going to be quite a bit better than the Wii U's

[ThatDarkNinja778]

also, i'm going to chance to say that most consumers aren't going to actually care too too much that their zelda game plays at 900p on a console that they can play on the bus. if you're a hardcore gamerman that really cares about getting the full console experience, the wii u version is still coming out, which will be higher fidelity and i expect probably in 1080p

Except that the Switch has considerably better specs than the Wii U. The Wii U version of BOTW is already confirmed to be at 720p and will unlikely be running any higher than that seeing as the Wii U struggles with 1080p with only 4 games supporting it.

Also worth mentioning that the earlier Wii U build seen at E3 was around <20-30fps with the current Switch build being a mostly consistent 30. Of course the game is still technically in development so the framerate and possibly be ironed out for both versions at release.

[otto-san]

Except that the Switch has considerably better specs than the Wii U. The Wii U version of BOTW is already confirmed to be at 720p and will unlikely be running any higher than that seeing as the Wii U struggles with 1080p with only 4 games supporting it.

Also worth mentioning that the earlier Wii U build seen at E3 was around <20-30fps with the current Switch build being a mostly consistent 30. Of course the game is still technically in development so the framerate and possibly be ironed out for both versions at release.

wow weird ok because the wii u version of BOTW looks considerably higher fidelity, tho if it's lower resolution i guess that makes sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgT6KpNnILc

i guess those are the facts tho so wtf

we still haven't heard about the tegra SOC though, have we? do we actually know for sure if the switch has higher specs, because that would be an impressive leap

[TheChazzyC]

Bubby is mad he doesn't have any money to buy the new system with.

me?

[ThatDarkNinja778]

wow weird ok because the wii u version of BOTW looks considerably higher fidelity, tho if it's lower resolution i guess that makes sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgT6KpNnILc

i guess those are the facts tho so wtf

we still haven't heard about the tegra SOC though, have we? do we actually know for sure if the switch has higher specs, because that would be an impressive leap

Yeah the Wii U build does have some better lighting and illumination in the first scene for some reason. I'm not really sure what's up with that.

I'm just roughly estimating the power myself based on how the launch window games run. For example Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Fast RMX are running at 1080p 60fps on the Switch in comparison to their Wii U predecessors, Mario Kart 8 and Fast Racing Neo of which are both 720p 60fps.

[otto-san]

Yeah the Wii U build does have some better lighting and illumination in the first scene for some reason. I'm not really sure what's up with that.

I'm just roughly estimating the power myself based on how the launch window games run. For example Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Fast RMX are running at 1080p 60fps on the Switch in comparison to their Wii U predecessors, Mario Kart 8 and Fast Racing Neo of which are both 720p 60fps.

they may also have downgraded graphical fidelity to try and hit the 1080p@60 target. i feel like it's pretty unlikely that a mobile SOC is going to beat out the wii u, which is a home console with a dedicated CPU and GPU. i would be highly impressed if they managed that and still got the battery life they claim without catching on fire and melting into mario goop.

i thought i had heard that the dock is just HDMI passthrough, is this actually confirmed, or have we learned otherwise now? if that's not the case, that would explain things a bit more

[McJob]

Yeah the Wii U build does have some better lighting and illumination in the first scene for some reason. I'm not really sure what's up with that.

You're crazy, right?

The Wii U version has the fog turned up to reduce the rendering stress of the scene as there's less visible polys, and the lighting is using a less accurate technique which is why the colours look so much more washed out and dull. There's also increased bump/normal mapping and I swear I could pick out higher resolution textures and wider LoD scales on the Switch version.

You guys are the first two people I've seen who thought the Wii U version was higher fidelity...that's crazy.

[crazies alt]

or you know
that first scene is 7 months old and they have made changes since

[MrLoL²]

or you know
that first scene is 7 months old and they have made changes since

This. It's completely useless to debate on the current graphic comparisons that aren't up to date, and 1 month and half before having the real shipped unit.

[McJob]

or you know
that first scene is 7 months old and they have made changes since

I was making a point about the versions as they were.

I don't see what your problem is.