Author Topic: Google fires James Damore for memo on echochamber  (Read 28522 times)

one way or the other i don't see how agreeing or disagreeing with google's decision should result in such a negative outcry, kimon or not
I don't see what's inherently wrong with a corporation having a left bias, cause I don't really buy the notion that diversity of political opinions really has anything to do with good software solutions

It's a symptom of the current lefty climate, you don't have to get a vote in it
this comment is dumb

Cappytaino made it sound like he only stuffposts/posts memes as a way to derail the topic once he's "lost" an argument

If you just don't like it at all when he posts memes (even when its just in response to personal attacks) then I get why you don't like him though
Why do only the most handicapped liberals show up to these forums and make noise?
Those were not personal attacks. They were not mass pming him hate speech or anything. Nor were they private investigating him, cracking passwords or anything of the like.
It's just meming and arguments. The ones he was primarily responding to was people straight up calling him handicapped and getting mad at him for posting random ass pictures in response to arguments.
You obviously have no idea what a personal attack it because i've been through them. Multiple times. This is babywork compared to what has happened to people on this forum before.

I don't see what's inherently wrong with a corporation having a left bias, cause I don't really buy the notion that diversity of political opinions really has anything to do with good software solutions

when said corporation has an extremely strong grip on the internet it starts to be a problem

Cappytaino made it sound like he only stuffposts/posts memes as a way to derail the topic once he's "lost" an argument

If you just don't like it at all when he posts memes (even when its just in response to personal attacks) then I get why you don't like him though, even if I don't agree
If I made it sound like he only does this in the Politics thread in order to avoid further debate, then I apologize because that wasn't my intention.

Kimon does this quite frequently elsewhere as well. It isn't just contained to the Politics thread. That being said, obscure meme-y stuffposts are probably the weakest criticism one can make of Kimon.

Why do only the most handicapped liberals show up to these forums and make noise?
Those were not personal attacks. They were not mass pming him hate speech or anything. Nor were they private investigating him, cracking passwords or anything of the like.
It's just meming and arguments. The ones he was primarily responding to was people straight up calling him handicapped and getting mad at him for posting random ass pictures in response to arguments.
You obviously have no idea what a personal attack it because i've been through them. Multiple times. This is babywork compared to what has happened to people on this forum before.
i think the confusion here is because your definition of "personal attack" is a lot more intense than how it's actually been used. the way it's been used is "an attack on your person," not as a thorough attempt to extensively harass and bully you

Reminder the guy was fired for stating a fact

Do you think it's okay to get fired for stating obvious facts that you can find my simply using google or any search engine, or a loving book at a library? It's like saying "the sky is blue," and getting fired for it because a color blind worker sees it as purple.

i think the confusion here is because your definition of "personal attack" is a lot more intense than how it's actually been used. the way it's been used is "an attack on your person," not as a thorough attempt to extensively harass and bully you
These were not attacks on his person (i hope). These were attacks on his forum behavior, and if he acts the same way in real life he's just irredeemable. I wouldn't believe it.

These were not attacks on his person (i hope). These were attacks on his forum behavior, and if he acts the same way in real life he's just irredeemable. I wouldn't believe it.

i guarantee if you met him in real life he'd be extremely socially awkward

These were not attacks on his person (i hope). These were attacks on his forum behavior, and if he acts the same way in real life he's just irredeemable. I wouldn't believe it.
regardless, they weren't argumentative material, they were attempts to disparage him, and responding with a dumb meme is something i'd personally gladly take over whatever happened in this thread. i don't expect anyone else to feel the same way but i think this is a markedly worse outcome

regardless, they weren't argumentative material, they were attempts to disparage him, and responding with a dumb meme is something i'd personally gladly take over whatever happened in this thread. i don't expect anyone else to feel the same way but i think this is a markedly worse outcome
even though I generally disagree with Kimon and think he does some pretty irritating things, I do think what occurred in earlier pages of this thread was slightly "over the top."

I understand many people have a gripe with him, but resorting to personal attacks instead of reserving judgement to his forum behavior is kind of stupid and if you genuinely believe he's a troll, flaming him and dogpiling him is just stooping to his level.


"Women are biologically inferior to men in terms of technical ability"
are you telling me that's impossible? Women are biologically inferior to men when it comes to say--lifting weights--and better when it comes to giving birth--obviously. Those are biological distinctions that exist. Are you telling me it's impossible that women struggle more with technical jobs than men due to something biological? For someone who claims to be so liberal, I'd expect you to actually listen to science and not claim loveism when someone suggests that there might be a biological distinction in the tech industry

you'd have to forget up really loving bad if zealot of all the people is debunking ur stuff

Those were not personal attacks.
You sure about this?

Or maybe you're just so insufferably stupid that trying to prove your already false views wrong would just be a wasted effort, considering how much of a flamboyant loving handicap you are

Get a life and stop posting already
Your entire loving life is a bluff
Provide a counter argument forgeter
This

No matter how much someone proves you wrong, you'll most likely go "what in tarnation" and spam pictures of gorillas or something
Just stop loving posting already please. You'll actually be doing the forum a much greater service than stuffposting about ass-backwards "muh communism!" and spamming memes when people criticize you.
When you're literally unable to forget off from a forum so you spend 10 dollars just to stuffpost about communism like a mentally-disabled jackass
At least Tony is funny, Kimon is just acting like a bumbling chimpanzee with a keyboard and a dvd documentary of Karl Marx
Read further than 10 words you commie nut-forget
What if those gorilla pictures he was spamming was actually of his girlfriend? Considering he's so far into communism, he's too poor to even look at a real girl, so he has to break into a zoo to take pictures and have love with something with a heartbeat
Your loving entire forum account is just a low energy post

Hell, your conception was probably very low energy as well, considering how much of a screw up you turned out to be
Stop posting forgetface

Why do only the most handicapped liberals show up to these forums and make noise?
Those were not personal attacks. They were not mass pming him hate speech or anything. Nor were they private investigating him, cracking passwords or anything of the like.
...
You obviously have no idea what a personal attack it because i've been through them. Multiple times. This is babywork compared to what has happened to people on this forum before.
Just because the attacks weren't "that bad" doesn't mean they weren't attacks. My argument doesn't rely on the severity of anything said to him, just that the things said to him were all ad hominem stuff and not actual arguments.

It's just meming and arguments. The ones he was primarily responding to was people straight up calling him handicapped and getting mad at him for posting random ass pictures in response to arguments.
He never posted a picture in response to an argument - hell, I don't think he replied to an argument in any way at all. In fact he explicitly only replied to people saying things about him. So he was only responding to "people straight up calling him handicapped" which I don't see a problem with (unless you fundamentally dislike him stuffposting in response to dumb personal attacks)

when said corporation has an extremely strong grip on the internet it starts to be a problem
I guess I can see why you'd want YouTube to be a place for ideological openness but idk I don't think that should be expected of every private platform on the internet. The rest of Google's products aren't really forums where debate can happen, and if they are they don't have a monopoly on that space (unlike YouTube which pretty much has a monopoly on user-generated video on demand content)

If I made it sound like he only does this in the Politics thread in order to avoid further debate, then I apologize because that wasn't my intention.

Kimon does this quite frequently elsewhere as well. It isn't just contained to the Politics thread. That being said, obscure meme-y stuffposts are probably the weakest criticism one can make of Kimon.
Cool. Again if you have any specific examples of why you actually dislike him (besides his political views, since you said that wasnt the reason) I'd love to see em

i think the confusion here is because your definition of "personal attack" is a lot more intense than how it's actually been used. the way it's been used is "an attack on your person," not as a thorough attempt to extensively harass and bully you
This exactly

Reminder the guy was fired for stating a fact

Do you think it's okay to get fired for stating obvious facts that you can find my simply using google or any search engine, or a loving book at a library? It's like saying "the sky is blue," and getting fired for it because a color blind worker sees it as purple.
I mean of course it would seem like an "obvious fact" when you already believe in that fact

These were not attacks on his person (i hope). These were attacks on his forum behavior, and if he acts the same way in real life he's just irredeemable. I wouldn't believe it.
This is garbage semantics. They were attacks on his person FOR HIS FORUM BEHAVIOR.

I mean of course it would seem like an "obvious fact" when you already believe in that fact
It's an obvious fact when many many many biological scientists have proven it so

You aren't going to begin denying actual proven facts are you