U.S.A. Politics Thread

Poll

I have posted a possibility for the election outcome in 6 variations. Choose your preferred below.

A. https://i.imgur.com/F6TVPLY.png
8 (34.8%)
B. https://i.imgur.com/uuRmNcE.png
3 (13%)
C. https://i.imgur.com/JK2OSsA.png
1 (4.3%)
D. https://i.imgur.com/sl6MVas.png
2 (8.7%)
E. https://i.imgur.com/K1GHlD3.png
2 (8.7%)
F. https://i.imgur.com/br3Sp06.png
7 (30.4%)

Total Members Voted: 23

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baby you gotta find something else to obsess over. come on
ill stop obsessing over it when someone actually examines the leak and explains its contents to me in a way that isn't passive aggressive

besides, idk how yall aren't obsessing over it. its been a wild ride. you could be calling the house majority leaders personal cellphone literally right now if you wanted to. i did and he called me back but it forgeted me up to see him do that so i didnt pick up
« Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 02:14:19 PM by mod-man »

ill stop obsessing over it when someone actually examines the leak and explains its contents to me in a way that isn't passive aggressive

besides, idk how yall aren't obsessing over it. its been a wild ride. you could be calling the house majority leaders personal cellphone literally right now if you wanted to. i did and he called me back but it forgeted me up to see him do that so i didnt pick up

The reality is, this will nolonger change or effect the election.

The media deliberately covered this up, but it's too late to make people aware for the presidential election.

Please, refocus on preparing for 2022. This helps no one. 

The reality is, this will nolonger change or effect the election.

The media deliberately covered this up, but it's too late to make people aware for the presidential election.

Please, refocus on preparing for 2022. This helps no one.
it helps me. if it helps me i know its helping someone else. its politically the most fascinating thing ive ever seen. how people aren't talking about it just out of interest is mind boggling to me. you have a direct line to so many gov't officials. you have a front row seat to material the media deemed non-existent. you get an extremely detailed look into a lifestyle that is so foreign to so many of us.

i even got a chance to have a conversation with the guy who leaked everything online initially. idc about the election, its just cool stuff. i wish more people would talk about it or be interested in it. id love to vent about what ive found

I think it would be great to eliminate the taboo of sharing thoughts about the government.

We keep saying elected leaders. They are supposed to be elected representatives. And what better way to establish that then to communicate with them.


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO
a quick google search on this topic shows how your take is completely false. brown townogy: if you're driving a tesla and suffer a heart attack and crash into a tree and the car exploded, the exact cause of death is a car accident, but that doesnt mean the heart attack wasn't the real factor that caused the death. same goes for covid and dying of pneumonia or whatever. no medical examiner would list someone who died of a GSW as dying of covid.

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020


for anyone too lazy to look into it, the death was reviewed and removed from the covid death count
I think the point of this article is that it may not be a isolated incident, because even if it wasn’t removed, a single case would really mean nothing.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 05:51:13 PM by soldier101@ »

I think the point of this article is that it may not be a isolated incident, because even if it wasn’t removed, a single case would really mean nothing.
the article cant even cite a second example of something like this happening

the article cant even cite a second example of something like this happening
no but the IDPH Director clearly explained how covid deaths are counted in this clip:

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

so in hindsight, there have in fact been many cases where a person died from other causes and was still listed as dying from covid on the death certificate

now let us also consider that the PCR test can give false positives too:

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/risk-false-results-curative-sars-cov-2-test-covid-19-fda-safety-communication

so we have people dying and it being listed as a covid death (even if it wasn't) if they tested positive using a method that isn't even accurate. hmmm

no but the IDPH Director clearly explained how covid deaths are counted in this clip:

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

so in hindsight, there have in fact been many cases where a person died from other causes and was still listed as dying from covid on the death certificate

now let us also consider that the PCR test can give false positives too:

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/risk-false-results-curative-sars-cov-2-test-covid-19-fda-safety-communication

so we have people dying and it being listed as a covid death (even if it wasn't) if they tested positive using a method that isn't even accurate. hmmm
what do i know im just a globehead

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no but the IDPH Director clearly explained how covid deaths are counted in this clip:

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

so in hindsight, there have in fact been many cases where a person died from other causes and was still listed as dying from covid on the death certificate

now let us also consider that the PCR test can give false positives too:

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/risk-false-results-curative-sars-cov-2-test-covid-19-fda-safety-communication

so we have people dying and it being listed as a covid death (even if it wasn't) if they tested positive using a method that isn't even accurate. hmmm
did you read the sources you posted at all or?

the person you are quoting is a single source in illinois, which is wrong: https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/05/12/illinois-is-not-inflating-coronavirus-deaths-in-fact-theyre-likely-higher-than-reported-officials-say/

and your other source literally is guidelines on how to prevent false negatives because the test can sometimes be maladministered and say someone doesnt have it when they do. you also have to realize that the false negatives/positives are exceedingly rare and barely change the number of covid cases. the tests are quite accurate as proved by multiple studies. PCR tests arent new they have been used for decades to diagnose stuff like HIV.

another thing is that when someone dies of covid or gets covid, not only one test is administered, the samples are rerun multiple times to verify the diagnosis and (from the source above) they recheck the samples of previous cases to audit the results of the past.

This is like saying all cancer diagnoses are fake because people die of heart attacks when they have cancer sometimes and sometimes cancer tests dont return positive when they should. Literally any kind of test you can make will have some percent of false positives/negatives.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 02:56:24 PM by Aide33 »

did you read the sources you posted at all or?

the person you are quoting is a single source in illinois, which is wrong: https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/05/12/illinois-is-not-inflating-coronavirus-deaths-in-fact-theyre-likely-higher-than-reported-officials-say/

and your other source literally is guidelines on how to prevent false negatives because the test can sometimes be maladministered and say someone doesnt have it when they do. you also have to realize that the false negatives/positives are exceedingly rare and barely change the number of covid cases. the tests are quite accurate as proved by multiple studies. PCR tests arent new they have been used for decades to diagnose stuff like HIV.

another thing is that when someone dies of covid or gets covid, not only one test is administered, the samples are rerun multiple times to verify the diagnosis and (from the source above) they recheck the samples of previous cases to audit the results of the past.

This is like saying all cancer diagnoses are fake because people die of heart attacks when they have cancer sometimes and sometimes cancer tests dont return positive when they should. Literally any kind of test you can make will have some percent of false positives/negatives.
ok globehead


the person you are quoting is a single source in illinois, which is wrong: https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/05/12/illinois-is-not-inflating-coronavirus-deaths-in-fact-theyre-likely-higher-than-reported-officials-say/

This is like saying all cancer diagnoses are fake because people die of heart attacks when they have cancer sometimes and sometimes cancer tests dont return positive when they should. Literally any kind of test you can make will have some percent of false positives/negatives.
okay your independent news site vs what she blatantly said about how covid deaths are counted. she straight up told you how they are counting them and you choose to deny it. And yeah sure this was in Illinois, but other states were doing, maybe even still are doing, the exact same thing. You know how I know? Because it happened in my state at a nursing home where 6 people were counted as a covid death but they died from other causes. My wife works there, and the people who "died of covid" already had numerous other prior conditions and were expected to die any day. ON THEIR DEATHBEDS ALREADY. The nursing home was actually paid MORE to report it that way because of the new bill - but you wont find that reported in the mainstream news now will you?

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

You don't think an organization would lie to put some extra cash into their pockets?? Come on dude.

and your other source literally is guidelines on how to prevent false negatives because the test can sometimes be maladministered and say someone doesnt have it when they do. you also have to realize that the false negatives/positives are exceedingly rare and barely change the number of covid cases. the tests are quite accurate as proved by multiple studies. PCR tests arent new they have been used for decades to diagnose stuff like HIV.

another thing is that when someone dies of covid or gets covid, not only one test is administered, the samples are rerun multiple times to verify the diagnosis and (from the source above) they recheck the samples of previous cases to audit the results of the past.
"you may continue to test positive if you've had COVID-19 in the distant past, even though you can’t spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus to others"

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/21462-covid-19-and-pcr-testing

So in other-words, a false positive. I wonder how many people will continue to test positive even after they are healthy and no longer contagious??