U.S.A. Politics Thread

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I have posted a possibility for the election outcome in 6 variations. Choose your preferred below.

A. https://i.imgur.com/F6TVPLY.png
8 (34.8%)
B. https://i.imgur.com/uuRmNcE.png
3 (13%)
C. https://i.imgur.com/JK2OSsA.png
1 (4.3%)
D. https://i.imgur.com/sl6MVas.png
2 (8.7%)
E. https://i.imgur.com/K1GHlD3.png
2 (8.7%)
F. https://i.imgur.com/br3Sp06.png
7 (30.4%)

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If we just kept the Keystone XL Pipeline, hadn't ended fracking and remained energy independent this wouldn't be a problem. But the democrats and joe biden's administration are more concerned with fantasy green energy pipe-dreams. Green Energy is not a realistic option for replacing Oil.
master matthew, three weeks ago: we still have a chance to stop climate change
master matthew, now: the solution to all of our problems is more oil

the fact that you are advocating for fracking of all things is a clear indication that you should not be talking about anything political that extends beyond the borders of your front yard

master matthew, three weeks ago: we still have a chance to stop climate change
master matthew, now: the solution to all of our problems is more oil

the fact that you are advocating for fracking of all things is a clear indication that you should not be talking about anything political that extends beyond the borders of your front yard

Over time with innovation, Oil can be phased out.

No one wants to switch to nuclear over Oil because the soviets ruined it for us.

But now it's a wartime environment. We don't have the luxury of going green.
If we continue the path we are on, we will have rolling blackouts, major industries and vital functions
Will be impacted. A massive chunk of our economy is online. Hospitals run on electricity. Transport
Runs on oil.

As we do this gas prices rise and prices of everything else will rise.
The average American cannot afford a $40k-$80k electric vehicle. The average business will not
Be able to switch to electric vehicles without going under.

If we're going green, we're going green for the wallet's of the wealthiest few.

why don't we just swap to horses matthew, they're way cheaper than petroleum cars and pollute much less

Wrong.

If we just kept the Keystone XL Pipeline, hadn't ended fracking and remained energy independent this wouldn't be a problem. But the democrats and joe biden's administration are more concerned with fantasy green energy pipe-dreams. Green Energy is not a realistic option for replacing Oil.

this is good and all but you dont live in reality at all, you literally have obviously never googled this because here is actually whats happening:
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-Annoying Oranges-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/
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New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Annoying Orange’s By 34%

Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

WASHINGTON— New federal data shows the Biden administration approved 3,557 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first year, far outpacing the Annoying Orange administration’s first-year total of 2,658.
biden has literally upped oil production more than Annoying Orange ever did, you are completely out of touch with what hes actually doing and just choose to believe second hand youtube sources

on top of that, the """fracking ban""" is just a 60 day suspension on giving out new permits. all existing permits are still going on
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Over time with innovation, Oil can be phased out.
this attitude that you have is exactly why I don't have hope for climate change. it's not that I believe we're already past the point of no return, but rather, that I know we will keep going like this until we are

this attitude that you have is exactly why I don't have hope for climate change. it's not that I believe we're already past the point of no return, but rather, that I know we will keep going like this until we are
That we should follow the innovation and not try to force it? We already have the solution to get rid of oil, but anytime anyone tells the "Go Green" goblins that we should maybe, just maybe use nuclear energy as a stop gap between oil and improvements on green energy they throw a loving fit and lose their minds because a bunch of communists didn't have the materials to make a proper nuclear power-plant and caused a ridiculous disaster.

We HAVE improved nuclear energy safety a lot since the 50s. And we've always been better with nuclear energy than a bunch of people who thought building a nuclear power plant under the threat of gulag was a good idea. Many European nations as well as China have made the push to Nuclear. France is mostly nuclear. But Germany is more like us. ("But Chernobyl!!") and they're in the same boat as us.

We're not going to loving throw OIL out the window without an equal replacement in terms of energy. Solar panels, Windmills and running water aren't enough energy to replace exploding dark goo."
But we could replace OIL with Nuclear. And Nuclear doesn't release CO2 the way OIL does.

Above all else we shouldn't be cutting off our current form of energy BEFORE setting up our next. That's loving Self Delete.


this is good and all but you dont live in reality at all, you literally have obviously never googled this because here is actually whats happening:
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-Annoying Oranges-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/biden has literally upped oil production more than Annoying Orange ever did, you are completely out of touch with what hes actually doing and just choose to believe second hand youtube sources

on top of that, the """fracking ban""" is just a 60 day suspension on giving out new permits. all existing permits are still going on

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For Immediate Release, January 21, 2022

Contact:
   

Taylor McKinnon, (xxx) xxx-xxxx, email@email.address

New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Annoying Orange’s By 34%
Ah, a totally not biased headline. Good start.

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Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

WASHINGTON— New federal data shows the Biden administration approved 3,557 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first year, far outpacing the Annoying Orange administration’s first-year total of 2,658.
Manipulative claim.
"First-year total"

Annoying Orange was still working through the Obama-administration limitations, by year 2, 3 and 4 he'd long since did away with Obama-era Regulations.
Biden has the inverse situation since he was working with Annoying Orange-era freedoms.

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Nearly 2,000 of the drilling permits were approved on public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management’s New Mexico office, followed by 843 in Wyoming, 285 in Montana and North Dakota, and 191 in Utah. In California, the Biden administration approved 187 permits — more than twice the 71 drilling permits Annoying Orange approved in that state in his first year.
Annoying Orange was still working through the Obama-administration limitations.

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“Biden’s runaway drilling approvals are a spectacular failure of climate leadership,” said Taylor McKinnon at the Center for Biological Diversity. “Avoiding catastrophic climate change requires ending new fossil fuel extraction, but Biden is racing in the opposite direction.”
This is an opinion.

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On Wednesday more than 360 climate, conservation, Indigenous, environmental justice and community groups petitioned the Biden administration to use its executive authority to phase out oil and gas production on public lands and oceans.
Nuclear Energy.

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The petition provides a framework to manage a decline of oil and gas production to near zero by 2035 through rulemaking, using long-dormant provisions of the Mineral Leasing Act, Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act and the National Emergencies Act. Without such action, it will become increasingly difficult for the United States to meet its pledge to help avoid 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming and its unprecedented social, environmental and economic damage.
Nuclear. Energy.

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“Biden squandered precious time seeking climate action from a broken Congress,” said McKinnon. “We need executive action now to meet the climate emergency with the urgency it demands, starting with ending the fossil fuel extraction the president controls.”
Opinion, also irrelevant.

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Several brown townyses show that climate pollution from the world’s already-producing fossil fuel developments, if fully developed, would push warming past 1.5 degrees Celsius, and that avoiding such warming requires ending new fossil fuel projects.
Cool. Nuclear Energy.

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At November’s COP26 summit in Glasgow, Biden called climate change “an existential threat to human existence” and pledged to cut U.S. emissions by up to 51% over the next nine years. Days later the administration offered 80 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas leasing and plans to offer more than 300,000 acres of public lands leases in March.
He promised to do something beyond the length of his term. That's loving suspicious.
Also just because they have land doesn't mean they have oil.

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The Department of the Interior’s review of the federal oil and gas programs effectively ignored climate, calling instead for adjustments to royalties, bids and bonding.
Great. Nuclear Energy.

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Federal fossil fuel production causes nearly a quarter of U.S. greenhouse gas pollution, worsening the climate and extinction crises and disproportionately harming Black, Brown, Indigenous and low-wealth communities.
Okay, cool. now I'm totally going to believe this article because now they're being tribal.
10/10

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Background
Peer-reviewed science estimates that a nationwide federal fossil fuel leasing ban would reduce carbon emissions by 280 million tons per year, ranking it among the most ambitious federal climate policy proposals in recent years.
And without switching to Nuclear, it would be a loving disaster for basically anything that relies on oil for energy.

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Oil, gas and coal extraction uses mines, well pads, gas lines, roads and other infrastructure that destroys habitat for wildlife, including threatened and endangered species. Oil spills and other harms from offshore drilling have done immense damage to ocean wildlife and coastal communities. Fracking and mining also pollute watersheds and waterways that provide drinking water to millions of people.
N u c l e a r   E n e r g y

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Federal fossil fuels that have not been leased to industry contain up to 450 billion tons of potential climate pollution; those already leased to industry contain up to 43 billion tons.
N u c l e a r   E n e r g y

Most of this article wasn't about Biden, nor did it really explain anything about the Keystone Pipeline being cut, or fracking being banned.

All it did was say that oil companies got leases on more land. That land could be overwhelmingly worthless as far as we know. And even if it isn't they're not going
to be fracking, and they're going to have to transport the oil via trucks, trains and non-pipeline options. Enabling the likelyhood of spills to go up.

Democrats don't think before they act. They panic, see "OMG climate iS CHANGING" and immediately start choking oil.
Guess we need "2 weeks" without oil to slow the climate change. Won't have any long-term repercussions from that at aaaallllllll.

god you're insane bro. how do you expect anyone to engage with your posts when they're like that

god you're insane bro. how do you expect anyone to engage with your posts when they're like that
They read.
They respond.

i think master matthew is confused at why i posted the article

you said biden has only crippled the us oil production, when US oil production is at one of its highest point in history and its trending upwards under biden and Annoying Orange.

i think its extremely bad that this is happening and i think its a horrible thing that biden is half-assedely embracing oil while publicly being for green energy. he is increasing our reliance on oil for no reason. i do not disagree that we need like 800 more nuclear powerplants and i would wholeheartedly welcome them being installed in the usa


found out that rvd was in a weed debate on msnbc over a decade ago, pretty wacky

i think master matthew is confused at why i posted the article

you said biden has only crippled the us oil production, when US oil production is at one of its highest point in history and its trending upwards under biden and Annoying Orange.
That isn't what the article claimed at all.

i think its extremely bad that this is happening and i think its a horrible thing that biden is half-assedely embracing oil while publicly being for green energy. he is increasing our reliance on oil for no reason. i do not disagree that we need like 800 more nuclear powerplants and i would wholeheartedly welcome them being installed in the usa
Nuclear is the green we need.





So glad I'm in a state with no CCW licensing so I can carry and not have to talk to cops.