Religious Stupidity

[Arcleader]

Idiot.

All of the evidence points towards (yes, all; if you find an astronomer who has spent a significant time studying the universe and doing peer-reviewed research who disagrees I'll eat my hat) the universe expanding at a extremely rapid rate around 13.7 billion years ago. What happened before this point no one knows.

And you can't be so stupid as to call the notion of the universe always existing idiotic when you yourself say your god has always existed.

God is supernatural, so natural laws don't apply. He's out of the game. He doesn't have to collect $200 dollars every time he passes "GO!".

Secondly,
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tba/universe-confirms-bible

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[Arcleader]

I can name many wars started over even the tinyest religious differences. I have to say, the 4+ Crusades were the worst, considering how they killed Jews along the way. As far as I know, Jesus was Jewish. wot

That was medieval times, before people were civilized. People didn't really follow the Bible then. That's where Martin Luther comes in.

[dkamm65]

You claiming that the universe didn't have a beginning. That's ridiculously idiotic.

PLEASE POINT OUT ONE loving SENTENCE IN MY ENTIRE FORUM TENURE THAT I SAID THE UNIVERSE DID NOT HAVE A BEGINNING.

[Arcleader]

Interesting site, however one shouldn't really be teaching students how to think nor what to think, but rather present ways of learning and viewing the world, both the known, presumed, and unknown, in different matters, so that the students may make open choices to their personal beliefs, as well as be open to listen to other beliefs. In other words, teachers should teach their students how to learn and use critical thinking, not how to think. Exactly
Oh come now. Creationists can be just as rude as naturalists, and as you said before, there is no need to generalize. They aren't supposed to, and I meant the representatives in this thread.

[Narkro555]

God is supernatural, so natural laws don't apply. He's out of the game. He doesn't have to collect $200 dollars every time he passes "GO!".

Wha-
Someone get this kid to a doctor

That was medieval times, before people were civilized. People didn't really follow the Bible then. That's where Martin Luther comes in.

It's completely the same, except for the violence

[*Magick* Mage]

I can feel the love from over here.

*Holds hand* Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya....

Why do you think I like it?

I really hope some of you know think I'm kidding

O u. :3

Where are you getting this information from? The Bible claims that it is correct, and so any Christian that doesn't believe that the Bible is correct isn't really a Christian. Harsh, but that's how it works. The Bible states clearly that there is no middle ground, only those with Jesus (me) and those against Jesus (You). So, I was indeed wrong saying it was contradictory. It's wrong.You claiming that the universe didn't have a beginning. That's ridiculously idiotic.

Whoa now. A person doesn't have to believe in the Bible to believe in Jesus. I believe in the Bible much differently then you, and I also don't even believe in all of it, though I am still firmly a Christian (Well, partially. :3).

The Bible, quite frankly, was written by mortal hands, "God breathed" or not. We can sin, and do sin, this is known by everyone. I believe that, perhaps, even the Apostles may have changed the words around - As may have the translators, both ancient and modern. This is why I believe what Augustine said (Or maybe it was Martin Luther. I don't remember. :o) that stated "God writes the gospel not in the Bible alone, but on trees and flowers and clouds and stars". The only thing, I believe, that can be trusted as the "Word of God" is the universe itself; Nature. Not just a fancy book. (Although, one must give it credit, it is well written. :o)
And guys, this is beginning to form into a religious war, as said by Narko . No need to insult each other, or belittle each other. Caaalm down.

As far as I know, Jesus was Jewish. wot

I always wondered: If Jesus was a Jew, does that mean he didn't believe in himself? And if so, wouldn't that mean he had a low self-esteem?

Maybe that's why he drank wine so much. :o

Or maybe he really was Italian! 

[Arcleader]

Sorry, I guess it wasn't you, it was another Evolutionist. Btw, didn't you ragequit?

Ever think it could be an infinite loop of cause and effect?

[Amade]

Okay when I said "threatened" it seemed to carry slightly more negative connotations than I intended, I mean that she would threaten to not let me go to the movies or something (and she never even went through with any).

It's wrong. You claiming that the universe didn't have a beginning. That's ridiculously idiotic.

Big bang. You're next going to ask where the singularity came from and we will reply with "we don't know" (I personally don't but there may be someone out there that does). Oh and this:

It's wrong. You claiming that the universe god didn't have a beginning. That's ridiculously idiotic.

First off, I'm not talking about the argument. I'm talking about the insults
Secondly, it's your mother. That's a monarchy. No arguing involved. Plus it's a threat, not an insult.

You were implying religious discrimination is one-sided when in fact most discrimination is against atheists. I was providing a counterexample. I do in fact argue with her about religion on occasion and she can't stand debate.

Quit linking that site you loving idiot. And if you're going to provide "evidence" make sure that it is exclusive proof in favor of christianity. Any religion could claim the exact same things and have no more valid a point. As for your supernatural god explanation, watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo

[fattysnacks]

Okay, now that Lalam has started another religion war, we now have to deal with huge religion arguments.

My side?

Flying Spaghetti Monster

Because all other gods eventually become hateful/violent in some way.

Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false god.  You should join Tarvuism.  It's so easy to join.

That was medieval times, before people were civilized. People didn't really follow the Bible then. That's where Martin Luther comes in.

the jews and their lies, lol

[Rughugger]

I always wondered: If Jesus was a Jew, does that mean he didn't believe in himself? And if so, wouldn't that mean he had a low self-esteem?

Maybe that's why he drank wine so much. :o

Or maybe he really was Italian! 

The History channel just tried to imprint him as an alien from outer space sent to try and teach us to be good little children. A couple of convincing shows to say the least to at least give a few new ideas of how early man interpreted beings from outer space. Considering that's what some people believe anyways *whistles to himself while rocking back and forth on the heels and toes of his feet and twiddles his thumbs*

[*Magick* Mage]

The History channel just tried to imprint him as an alien from outer space sent to try and teach us to be good little children. A couple of convincing shows to say the least to at least give a few new ideas of how early man interpreted beings from outer space. Considering that's what some people believe anyways *whistles to himself while rocking back and forth on the heels and toes of his feet and twiddles his thumbs*

That actually scares me. :o

Unrelated, but epic. :o

[Inv3rted]

God is supernatural, so natural laws don't apply. He's out of the game. He doesn't have to collect $200 dollars every time he passes "GO!".

Secondly,
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tba/universe-confirms-bible

That's the most cop-out piece of bullstuff I've ever seen. You're essentially claiming it's impossible to argue that God mostly likely doesn't exist because logic does not apply to God. Logic is something of the universe, is it not? Well, if you're going to pull that crap I'm going to point out that there is no reason to believe in God at the same time considering logic is irrelevant to God. 

My brick wall brown townogy is still holding water just fine.

[*Magick* Mage]

Also, Inb4Inv3rted returns :o

That's the most cop-out piece of bullstuff I've ever seen. You're essentially claiming it's impossible to argue that God mostly likely doesn't exist because logic does not apply to God. Logic is something of the universe, is it not? Well, if you're going to pull that crap I'm going to point out that there is no reason to believe in God at the same time considering logic is irrelevant to God. 

My brick wall brown townogy is still holding water just fine.

.............

Inb4Rughugger returns! :D

[mrlolop]

That's the most cop-out piece of bullstuff I've ever seen. You're essentially claiming it's impossible to argue that God mostly likely doesn't exist because logic does not apply to God. Logic is something of the universe, is it not? Well, if you're going to pull that crap I'm going to point out that there is no reason to believe in God at the same time considering logic is irrelevant to God. 

My brick wall brown townogy is still holding water just fine.

Can I have some water, too?

[Inv3rted]

And by reason to believe in God I meant LOGICAL reason to believe in God.