Author Topic: My Reasons for Being Atheist  (Read 20049 times)

about what? jesus changed only 1 thing. if you know of other, share them with us.
I wasn't talking about Jesus, though certainly He introduced a lot. I was talking about you. You've stated the whole change in sacrifice before, yes, and it does hold up, Jesus did change that and it was a very large change indeed. However, if memory serves, you've also stated that Christians should ignore the Old Testament because it is Jewish and not part of the Christian creed. Fairly recently as well, a few weeks ago, if that, in another topic similar to this.

A rather miniscule detail, I know, but confusing none the less. I may be mistaken, of course, but I'll look for the quote to settle this.

i dont think Christians should do anything, i think they are all lost and are being fooled left and right.
i dont believe either way. im simply stating what i know is actually written.

most of christians arguments arent based on scripture, but the manmade stuff they are learning in todays churches that dont even apply to what god wants.
most christians dont even KNOW whats in the bible. there isnt much translating and deciphering actually needed. its all very clear and specific about most all issues. but the average christian has no understanding of it. he dosnt study the bible. but instead waits to be told what to believe.

the new testament isnt "this is now what we use" its only when jesus showed up and the stories continued.
about 1000 other books were kept out of the bible canon. if any part of the old testament wasnt relavent at the birth of the church, it would have been left out as well.

i dont think Christians should do anything, i think they are all lost and are being fooled left and right.
i dont believe either way. im simply stating what i know is actually written.

most of christians arguments arent based on scripture, but the manmade stuff they are learning in todays churches that dont even apply to what god wants.
most christians dont even KNOW whats in the bible. there isnt much translating and deciphering actually needed. its all very clear and specific about most all issues. but the average christian has no understanding of it. he dosnt study the bible. but instead waits to be told what to believe.

the new testament isnt "this is now what we use" its only when jesus showed up and the stories continued.
about 1000 other books were kept out of the bible canon. if any part of the old testament wasnt relavent at the birth of the church, it would have been left out as well.
Well, alright than. Your statement in the other topic merely threw me off, that's all.

This war makes me sad...
It just doesn't make sense, why would you do it? What benefits you in proving wrong someone wrong, just to make him feel bad, when they did nothing to you?
I have seen atheists in topics like this, saying they are tired of christians trying to make them of that religion.
Proving if something of the bible is incorrect, is the same! Christians may feel bad, and then think about it, then stop believing in God.
Would you like if a rampage of christians came and tried to make you a christian with "bullstuff bible quotes"?
It's the same thing you do to us. Maybe, someday you might get annoyed when you are the last atheist.

I honestly think that Christian, Jewish and Islamic books are novels from some advanced society or aliens given in a rough translation of the human language in the area, or fed directly into the brain with some sort of advanced device. Most likely aliens or some kind of pre-human life form that was on earth previously, and escaped with spaceflight. Anyways, these were later translated, and then manipulated by kings and such until it made people behave they wanted to. Of course, it didn't even have to be manipulated. Also, aliens and pre-human life forms would totally prove gods.

TL;DR:

God/gods are alien/advanced creatures from Earth and made books that people read and thought it was real.

but you dont know that. you are guessing based on lack of information. and speaking on god's behalf because of it. (which is a major sin)

Quote from: Dictionary.com
1. In the interests of a person, group, or principle.
2. As a representative of: "he had to attend the funeral on Mama's behalf"


Please clarify your statement.

Anyways, it was predicted that Jesus would come from multiple men inspired directly by God and were enpowered by him also. God is considered omniscient in terms of knowing future events he has planned and the outcome of them. (Isaiah 46:9-11)

Also, God can bend His commands if He sees it just under the right circumstance. (Genesis 22)
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Please clarify your statement.

Anyways, it was predicted that Jesus would come from multiple men inspired directly by God and were enpowered by him also. God is considered omniscient in terms of knowing future events he has planned and the outcome of them. (Isaiah 46:9-11)

Also, God can bend His commands if He sees it just under the right circumstance. (Genesis 22)
This god knows the future and that some people are going to be damned?
You call this "god" good?

This god knows the future and that some people are going to be damned?
You call this "god" good?
God can't just let the evil in heaven. Hes testing people, to know whos good, or evil.
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Please clarify your statement.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for Bisjac to write a clear, coherent thought." - Mark 10:25

Them's God's words.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for Bisjac to write a clear, coherent thought." - Mark 10:25

Them's God's words.

lol'd
badly

This god knows the future and that some people are going to be damned?
You call this "god" good?

Define your view of "good".

Is it "Everyone is automatically saved even if they didn't believe in God"?


God can't just let the evil in heaven. Hes testing people, to know whos good, or evil.

If there is a predetermined future known by God, then without even doing anything you already condemned for evil.

Sounds like a stuffty god to me.

If there is a predetermined future known by God, then without even doing anything you already condemned for evil.

Sounds like a stuffty god to me.
Not really.

Christianity is so popular because you can have a relationship with your god and he can forgive you.
There is no predetermined future, He just knows how it will turn out in the end.

Two things:

- The Placebo Effect: The effect that if you are given something that you think will have an effect on you, it will have that efect to a degree. Did you know that if you give people something that tastes of alcohol and tell them it's beer, they'll get drunk, even if there's no alcohol in it whatsoever? I've experianced the placebo effect myself, so have lots of people, it's a documented and tested psychological phenominon. If you have enough faith that your prayer will stop your heart pains, then when you pray, your mind numbs itself. You got rid of the pain yourself, I'm afraid.

- We naturally remember our successes more than our failures. I was once briefly convinced that I could see the future, and when I excitedly gabbled this off to my mother, and she dryly asked me why, I said that I'd just predicted the song a TV host was going to put on. I then cited about five or six other incidents where I'd predicted as well. Mum then asked me to cite the times I hadn't predicted the future. I couldn't remember them, but thinking back on it now I'm older of course there were loads of cases before that moment where I'd guessed the future wrong. I wanted it to be true, so my mind provided all of the times I'd gotten it right- another documented psychological phenominon.

Now, if you wanted to convince me of God's healing, you'd do a few things. First, you'd cut your arm off. Then you'd pray, and God would reattach it/grow a new one for you. That kind of reparation that's well beyond human capacity and well beyond the capacity of the mind to pretend. That'd dismiss the placebo effect. Then you'd do this again, every night for a month, and tally the number of times God reattached it with the times God didn't (using other limbs for the time he didn't). That'd show that you actually had a decent number of successes in comparison to your failures.

If there is a predetermined future known by God, then without even doing anything you already condemned for evil.

Sounds like a stuffty god to me.

People can still believe in an evil god if they want.