Religious Views?

[Narkro555]

I don't have time to adress all the stupidity in this post so I'll just link you here.

That link is exactly what I was talking about: "you looked at the facts wrong". That's the only argument I've seen against the steadily growing tide of people who use logic and scientifically accepted facts to determine our past instead of a 2000 year old storybook.

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[Clone v.117]

fact: christians aren't allowed to wank

im serious, no lust allowed said the bible

Just don't think about anything lust while you wank.
I want to slices of bread and cardboard.

I've noticed a common argument is that Atheists have no argument against the bible because they interpreted it wrong. I don't understand. No matter how you look at it it's still a load of nonsense. According to the bible, god made plants the day before he made the sun. In Genesis 1 the entire creation takes 6 days, but the universe is at least 12 billion years old, with new stars constantly being formed. Humans were not created instantaneously from dust and breath, but evolved over millions of years from simpler life forms.
Probably the funniest is that god curses the serpent. "From now on the serpent will crawl on his belly and eat dust". One wonders how he got around before - by hopping on his tail? But snakes don't eat dust, do they.

Oh yeah, and Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long. And then fit two of every living creature on the planet. And then came a storm which caused a flood taller then mount Everest. Makes sense to me.

You are trying to prove christianity wrong by making it seem as if god created everything when people say it was created. According to the bible the universe is a bit over 6000 years old, according to scientists the world is like 12dinosaurslonglolcanoe5 billbijon years old, you cannot put them both together as one.
A serpent may have been different before?
It doesn't make any sense at all to say "makes sense" when you are talking about something SUPPOSED to be limitless and outreach human minds, if god is real then anything he wanted to happen could be possible, he could fit an elephant inside a piece of paper or somestuff idunno.

[DracoSoul]

I used to believe in God.

Then I realized that its only a failsafe for things we don't know.

Think about all the things that were considered to be "performed by god", and then were later proven to have completely sensible explanations.

Its all so obviously a fallback, and because death is the biggest fear of all mankind. It makes me sad that there isn't some magic place in the sky where I can go to live the rest of my existence in harmony, but its true, it doesn't exist.

[Narkro555]

You are trying to prove christianity wrong by making it seem as if god created everything when people say it was created. According to the bible the universe is a bit over 6000 years old, according to scientists the world is like 12dinosaurslonglolcanoe5 billbijon years old, you cannot put them both together as one.
A serpent may have been different before?
It doesn't make any sense at all to say "makes sense" when you are talking about something SUPPOSED to be limitless and outreach human minds, if god is real then anything he wanted to happen could be possible, he could fit an elephant inside a piece of paper or somestuff idunno.

But do those impossible feats ever happen? You know the bible is a load of crap, it's not hard to figure that out. I don't care if something "is supposed to" not make sense, it is starting to make sense while the bible quickly makes less sense. There is no solid evidence for the existence of any god. All I've seen is red herrings, rhetoric, and circular logic (god is real because his book said so).

Also, the idea of a talking snake moving around a garden like Tigger made me lol.

[Kalphiter]

Most atheists don't even try to understand the Bible either.

However, both groups have large communities that are set up specifically for the argument of the subject. So "most" is a guessing term.

You can find some really cool things in the Bible.

Moses' story

10 commandment delivery is similar to a volcanic eruption -- a phenomena unexplained to prehistoric peoples and seen as beyond them, perhaps an act of gods -- which is now explained in detail today.

Noah's flood

"... but if these people should chance to read the reconstructions of what really did happen, they would find themselves confronted with something far more memorable than the bbrown town account of Noah's flood: a sudden massive wall of dark water roaring across a thickly populated plain. This "Atlantis" event would have adhered to the prehistoric memory, all right, as indeed it does to ours."
    -God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (Christopher Hitchens)

Outburst flood examples

Possible origin of Noah's flood

I think it's pretty cool seeing the way ancient peoples understood their world and how huge natural disasters affected them.

[Firecycle]

Narko, in response to your rejection of evidential evidence: Logical arguments against evolution.

[Narkro555]

God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (Christopher Hitchens)

/brofist

[Kalphiter]

Narko, in response to your rejection of evidential evidence: [url=http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/v/recent/k/logical-fallacies-series]Logical arguments against evolution.[/url]

Hurr

Credible sources, please.

[Firecycle]

Hurr

And the problem is...?

Credible sources, please.

Did you even read them?

[Narkro555]

I thought up of an easy example of evolution. I assume you know what dog breeding is? Breeders are trying to create dogs with favorable characteristics. So when the dogs mate, they only let the puppies with desirable characteristics mate and the non-favorable ones don't. Repeat this a few times and you have a dog with the characteristics you want. Now take that example and change up the breeder for nature. The animals that can survive some of nature's dangers reproduce, and the ones that don't die. Therefore the animals slowly adapt to their environment and have characteristics suited for said location. Just like dog breeding, which is very well excepted.

And the problem is...?

It quotes the bible as proof. Also known as circle logic. By the way, read the above paragraph.

[Firecycle]

It quotes the bible as proof. Also known as circle logic. By the way, read the above paragraph.

Again, did you read the articles?

[Headcrab Zombie]

Funfact: We're also better off for it.

Explain

I've noticed a common argument is that Atheists have no argument against the bible because they interpreted it wrong.

Of course! Why would an all powerful being speak to us plainly when he could speak to us through ancient, confusingly worded texts instead?

[Kalphiter]

A problem with people who don't understand evolution is that they don't understand what mutations are.

[Narkro555]

Again, did you read the articles?

Yes.

Now tell me why my comparison is wrong.

[Firecycle]

Now tell me why my comparison is wrong.

I thought up of an easy example of evolution. I assume you know what dog breeding is? Breeders are trying to create dogs with favorable characteristics. So when the dogs mate, they only let the puppies with desirable characteristics mate and the non-favorable ones don't. Repeat this a few times and you have a dog with the characteristics you want. Now take that example and change up the breeder for nature. The animals that can survive some of nature's dangers reproduce, and the ones that don't die. Therefore the animals slowly adapt to their environment and have characteristics suited for said location. Just like dog breeding, which is very well excepted.

Because no matter how much you (or nature) breeds a dog, it will still be a dog, and it will only be able to reproduce with other dogs.