supreme court struck down affirmative action 6-2

[Char]

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things feminists have done and if it isn't soon i'm pm'ing them

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things Christians have done

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things Muslims have done

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things atheists have done

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things MRAs have done

oh you forgeters just wait right here im gonna get a list of all the stuffty things police officers have done

And so on...
Do you see the problem here?

trust me they are far from a minority

Trust me, religious fundamentalists are far from a minority.
Trust me, neo-national socialists are far from a minority.
Trust me, white supremacists are far from a minority.

The problem is that extremist minorities are heard more often because they are more extremist. They are more vocal, and their actions are more exciting and newsworthy, and thus they get spread more.

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[ultimamax]

To be fair there are situations where you can't get to know a person too well, so its more appropriate to rely on generalizations and stereotypes. For example, insurance companies will charge you more for auto insurance if your car is red, or you're a male. To say that being an african american wouldn't fit perfectly well into this is silly.I understand that its mostly the blacks in the inner city zones of transition that make up these statistics, and once you look at african americans that have moved away, the perceived threat is higher than the actual threat.No idea who that is, will have to look him up.

He wrote "White Man's Burden", arguing that white people have to conquer foreign lands and civilize the inferior natives. Relying on generalizations and stereotypes when looking at prospective students or workers is pointless. If they don't have a criminal record there's no reason to believe they are a bad person.

I never said that being black inherently makes you more likely to be a murderer - that's complete tribal bullstuffery right there. I just said that  the statistics are true - if you take some random black people, ignoring social status, you WILL be more likely to find criminals. As I said, though, it's still unfair to judge people on the status of their race.

But you can't justify using this in an argument against affirmative action. You are literally making the case that positive discrimination is unfair because black people are inferior, and therefore undeserving of these benefits.

[DrenDran]

If they don't have a criminal record there's no reason to believe they are a bad person.

Isn't that generalizing that all criminals are repeat offenders?
And such a generalization plays a large part in continuing the cycle of poverty.

[lolz??]

>switch it to give whites advantages
>suddenly becomes tribal

[TristanLuigi]

But you can't justify using this in an argument against affirmative action. You are literally making the case that positive discrimination is unfair because black people are inferior, and therefore undeserving of these benefits.

Now I see why you're mad. I wasn't talking in the context of affirmative action at all! That would be a horrible reason. Positive discrimination is unfair because giving a certain race privileges is just unfair, black people are in no way inferior but also don't deserve benefits (and neither do white people, to make that clear.)

>switch it to give whites advantages
>suddenly becomes tribal

I wouldn't want special privileges over black people...

[childofdarkness016]

Isn't that generalizing that all criminals are repeat offenders?
And such a generalization plays a large part in continuing the cycle of poverty.

i think when he says a criminal record he means a repeat offender

just the connotation of the word "record" makes it seem as if it's happened more than once

Of course, I agree with you in this aspect but only this aspect.

[Char]

Isn't that generalizing that all criminals are repeat offenders?
And such a generalization plays a large part in continuing the cycle of poverty.

Don't they still have a criminal record even if they only have one offense?

I mean I probably just don't know what a criminal record is if they don't

[Kimon²]

THE LIST HAS BEEN SENT

[childofdarkness016]

THE LIST HAS BEEN SENT

i didn't get it

[Char]

i didn't get it

the PM i got was titled "i sent this to the other guy too" so maybe he's manually sending it to everyone instead of carbon copy or something

[Kimon²]

i didn't get it

oh did you want one

ok hold up

[TristanLuigi]

oh did you want one

ok hold up

Just post it in You Cringe You Lose.

[childofdarkness016]

Just post it in You Cringe You Lose.

Yeah, I'll put Kimon's PM up there.

[ultimamax]

Isn't that generalizing that all criminals are repeat offenders?
And such a generalization plays a large part in continuing the cycle of poverty.

If they have repeat offenses on their criminal record, then yes, they are probably a repeat offender. But you have a point. My point is when deciding between applicants you should be looking at all the information you have on them to make your decision.

Now I see why you're mad. I wasn't talking in the context of affirmative action at all! That would be a horrible reason. Positive discrimination is unfair because giving a certain race privileges is just unfair, black people are in no way inferior but also don't deserve benefits (and neither do white people, to make that clear.)I wouldn't want special privileges over black people...

Except they do deserve benefits. Diversity benefits schools and workplaces. Minorities are still extremely discriminated against. By allowing more qualified minorities into the workforce/high education we help improve their economic situation and the state of their community as a whole, in order to work towards a more diverse and equal America.

>switch it to give whites advantages
>suddenly becomes tribal

Yes it is tribal. Whites aren't as discriminated against as minorities. It would be putting favor on those who don't need it. Race is not black and white, racism is not over, switching the races in situations and comparing the results is an ineffective argument because of how race works in today's society.

[Kimon²]

Just post it in You Cringe You Lose.

nah


i'll post it RIGHT HERE IN FACT

http://anti-feminism-pro-equality.tumblr.com/badwomen

http://anti-feminism-pro-equality.tumblr.com/quotes

http://dontneedfeminism.tumblr.com/post/69121428967/do-you-have-a-list-of-violent-crimes-perpetrated-by

"Some may argue that these cases of feminists harming men is not “representative” of feminism. I ask you: Are there any cases of feminists helping men? No. Yet, there are many cases of feminists harming men.

It is reasonable to conclude from these facts that feminism fights to harm men."

don't be discouraged by the fact that they lead to blogs the blogs source everything

jackasses. i'm telling you.