StarMade - On the long road to Beta!

[Planr]

holy crap is that actually gonna be a thing in starmade

i mean, not that it matters too much to me since i dont play starmade anymore

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[comr4de]

The skull has a secret weapon which I'm not going to share lest someone tell schema its overpowered and demand it be nerfed

[Frequency]

someone will find out and bitch about it anyway. looks cool though.

[Planr]

The skull has a secret weapon which I'm not going to share lest someone tell schema its overpowered and demand it be nerfed

if you're afraid it's going to be nerfed, that's a pretty good indicator that it probably NEEDS to be, and that you also know that, but don't want it fixed because "muh faction elitism" and "muh secret advantage". so you keep it a secret, your faction becomes the only group that knows how to do it, and meanwhile everyone else suffers unfairly when they battle you as a result. not cool. it pissed us all off when zoro did that stuff but when you, twoniner and incap do it, it's suddenly acceptable?

fun fact, that elitist exploit-suppression crap is why i don't play this game anymore and also why i'm not friends with you anymore. the way you, incap, zoro and others are behaving is ruining this good game, and making it very frustrating to play, and also more frustrating for the devs to balance and patch. just stop.

[Ceist]

i couldn't give two stuffs about whether uses something overpowered or exploits a certain glitch in the game to get what they want. it'll be fixed if it's discovered and reported, so i may as well use it myself.

[Planr]

I just hate it when people have unfair advantages over others. I'd like to think that there's a certain standard of morality when it comes to gaming, simple obvious stuff like that cheating is wrong, and so is deliberately harboring exploits and withholding them from the devs. Zorozeenee did this type of crap all the time and still does it on StarMade. Comr4de's Incap's faction is now, unfortunately, no different.

I've tried to expose as much of their bullstuff as I can, but there's only so much I can do. Hopefully there will one day come a time where all these little exploits these starfishs are using are fixed and they will be forced to actually play fair for once, like everyone else. And that will be the day I will finally be happy. Fair and balanced gameplay for all 

[Ceist]

I just hate it when people have unfair advantages over others. I'd like to think that there's a certain standard of morality when it comes to gaming, simple obvious stuff like that cheating is wrong, and so is deliberately harboring exploits and withholding them from the devs. Zorozeenee did this type of crap all the time and still does it on StarMade. Comr4de's Incap's faction is now, unfortunately, no different.

think of it like a business secret, if you can get over your competitors with something you've discovered, do it. this where corporate espionage is actually a good thing.

[Planr]

think of it like a business secret, if you can get over your competitors with something you've discovered, do it. this where corporate espionage is actually a good thing.

Someone's been playing Deus Ex Human Revolution, eh?

But yeah, that's true, unfortunately. I can't blame Incap for wanting to have the best faction on StarMade, but he's going about in a very bad and douchebaggy way. What they are doing is wrong, and I'm trying the best I can to help SCHINE fix these exploits and OP mechanics until people like Zoro and Incap can't abuse and decieve anymore. The faction elitism and corruption being promoted by these people is pure cancer. It's hurting the quality of the faction community and needs to be stopped.

[Harm94]

There is a difference between reporting an exploit for the sake of balance and the for the sake of getting back at some one. Yes Incap draws weird stuff, yes it's disgusting to look at, yes Incap is a terrible leader, yes we know you hate him. Is finding expoits and reporting them a good thing? Sure. Can't say however I agree with the way you approached it since your intent was to get back at Incap.

[Ceist]

There is a difference between reporting an exploit for the sake of balance and the for the sake of getting back at some one. Yes Incap draws weird stuff, yes it's disgusting to look at, yes Incap is a terrible leader, yes we know you hate him. Is finding expoits and reporting them a good thing? Sure. Can't say however I agree with the way you approached it since your intent was to get back at Incap.

if it kills two birds with one stone.

[Harm94]

if it kills two birds with one stone.

I could probably argue the same about Snowden where all he did was release a few documents pointing towards public surveillance and then takes a bunch of other secrets with him and goes to Russia.

[Ceist]

I could probably argue the same about Snowden where all he did was release a few documents pointing towards public surveillance and then takes a bunch of other secrets with him and goes to Russia.

that is relevant how? besides the obvious correlation to killing two birds with one stone.

[Planr]

There is a difference between reporting an exploit for the sake of balance and the for the sake of getting back at some one. Yes Incap draws weird stuff, yes it's disgusting to look at, yes Incap is a terrible leader, yes we know you hate him. Is finding expoits and reporting them a good thing? Sure. Can't say however I agree with the way you approached it since your intent was to get back at Incap.

The notion that I have done this to spite incap or get back at him is something Comr4de made up and doesnt reflect my intentions at all. Yes I strongly dislike Incap. He is a despicable person. However spiting him is pointless and doesnt accomplish anything, whereas changing gameplay so its fair and these exploits are removed is something worth striving towards.

Incap can go forget himself; I wont do it for him. He can do whatever he wants, and it wont concern me, as long as all these exploits of his are patched. Balanced, OP-advantage free gameplay is all I desire.

[Cybertails1998]

Balanced, OP-advantage free gameplay is all I desire.

I have bad news for you

[comr4de]

Planr, the most recent "exploit" you started a crusade against is something we have literally been using since our first visit to hypercore. I KNOW you knew about it. BDLS showed you how to do it, and installed it on Richelieu, Bismark, Iowa, and Yamato. and I showed you how to do it again recently. However, since you have some sort of inane, dare i say autistic obsession with sticking it to Incap and TwoNiner you have once again gone out of way to make sure something that YOU DON'T LIKE is patched. Incap loving nailed it in his response. You are stifling innovation. I don't want to share anything with you anymore (not that I could for that matter; you've blocked and delete my contacts on every form of communication) because I cannot trust you to deem that it's unbalanced and go crying to schema on skype.

I have stood up for you COUNTLESS TIMES. I have gone out of my way for you on the council time and time again. The fact that you repay me with this sort of bullstuff is loving absurd. You are the same tier of stuffter that steers game development in your direction because it suits you. This is demonstrated via some of your suggestions (extend homebase protection to warpgates? are you loving with me?) to demanding that EVERY CHANGE IN GAME BALANCE BE REVERSED until you get used to it a week later. In the time it took you to simply finish the weapons on Gyoza I built a ship that size and REFIT IT. You then complain that there are too many rapid changes to game balance. Planr, this is not the case. You are just too slow.
 
I don't know what kind of balance you want. There will never ever be an entirely level playing field for a variety of reasons. The first is that people have differing levels of expertise with playing the game. If you seriously want to dumb down the game to be a level playing field for everyone you run the risk of removing any depth and charm to the game.

I wish you knew about how many projects I had to keep secret from you when we were in Arstotzka because I knew that the moment you heard about it you'd determine it was somehow unbalanced and demand it be fixed. Literally all of those projects were (and still are) INTENDED FEATURES. I'm actually kind of glad you decided to cut off communications because this means I no longer have to pusillanimous individualfoot about with discussing game concepts with you.

TL;DR go forget yourself.

edit: Zoro has been one of the greatest resources to myself and the council in terms of establishing the current combat and faction balance. He's working with us now to balance missile damage. You are out of your depth on this one.