#gamergate megathread

[Kimon²]

I appreciate outside opinions on video games and welcome healthy discussion. No, they're not going to loving ban video games.

no but there's always the possibility that video games will become borderline "no fun allowed"

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[beachbum111111]

I appreciate outside opinions on video games and welcome healthy discussion. No, they're not going to loving ban video games.

[Katadeus]

NO
NO
NO
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[joe411]

kill me

[Kimon²]

[ZombiLoin]

Aside from his words about "pro-social" or "healing," (I don't think interactive media is ready for that yet) I agree that fun shouldn't be the only criteria on which to judge a game on. I wouldn't exactly call a horror game like Alien: Isolation "fun," or a game like Fallout to be fun but I would describe the former as frightening and the latter as intelligently written and thought-provoking (and darkly-humorous). But does that mean they're bad games?

And honestly, it's his own opinion. Is he calling for games that are fun to be banned? No, he's not, he's saying that a game should be judged on merits other than the simple glee you get when killing things or clicking a few buttons.

[ShadowsfeaR]

I don't know about you guys but I just play games to play games

Yep and the only time I ever hear gamergate pop up or anything that has to do with this stuff, is if someone else brings it up. I just sit back and play games and have fun with myself or with others.

[Oasis]

I like Jim Sterling's view on what is a video game.

Basically, anything on an electronic platform that was built to be "played" rather than built to be "productive". Mountain, a video game. Dear Esther, a video game, etc. They're all video games, but since they are we get to judge them like video games and not like untouchable pieces of art that their creators would like us to think about them as. Mountain is a piece of stuff game that allows minimal interaction for basically no reward or progression. Dear Esther lacks interactivity outside of walking straight, and therefore is one of the most boring video games on the planet.

See? If you stop limiting what a video game can be, you can have a whole bunch more fun stuffting on all the video games that truly suck a giant richard.

[beachbum111111]

I wouldn't exactly call a horror game like Alien: Isolation "fun," or a game like Fallout to be fun but I would describe the former as frightening and the latter as intelligently written and thought-provoking (and darkly-humorous). But does that mean they're bad games?

The reason people play horror games like Alien: Isolation is because they have FUN being scared or at the very least they have fun watching other people get scared, just ask anyone who actually likes horror games

A game like Fallout is liked because of its RPG elements in a first person environment, which people have FUN with. Have you even played these games?

And honestly, it's his own opinion. Is he calling for games that are fun to be banned? No, he's not, he's saying that a game should be judged on merits other than the simple glee you get when killing things or clicking a few buttons.

Except for the fact that the post was named "A Guide to Ending "Gamers"'

Yep and the only time I ever hear gamergate pop up or anything that has to do with this stuff, is if someone else brings it up. I just sit back and play games and have fun with myself or with others.

Except these journalists have the power to boost sales or repress them. Considering they all scheme together on GameJournosPro they all decide what game is going to be reviewed when, and what the general score is. Look at Polygons review of Bayonetta 2 http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/13/6957677/bayonetta-2-review-wii-u

They took off 25% because of bayonetta 2's "blatent over-loveualization" and they all bitched and moaned about Assassins Creed: Unity not having a female main character (even though the time period didn't exactly have many woman fighting in wars). They care more about pushing their own agenda then they do about the actual game, and they will stifle a decent games sales in order to do it.

[ZombiLoin]

The reason people play horror games like Alien: Isolation is because they have FUN being scared or at the very least they have fun watching other people get scared, just ask anyone who actually likes horror games
Nobody would describe it as "fun" if fun is the glee you get from say, killing hordes of enemies. It's more thrilling and stressful than gleeful.
A game like Fallout is liked because of its RPG elements in a first person environment, which people have FUN with. Have you even played these games?
>Ignoring the first two three isometric Fallouts.
I don't think you've played the games, to be honest.

[beachbum111111]

1. If it was just stressful and thrilling then why would we play horror games? Considering the fact that I have actually beaten SCP: Containment breach I can tell you that it is fun to play horror games, especially on a big screen TV with friends.

2. As for the first 3 fallout games let me just give you a qoute from PC games magazine:

"For anyone with an interest in complex, combat-heavy, lovingly produced RPGs, though, Fallout is a must buy. In an age where many are predicting the death of traditional RPGs at the hands of multiplayer extravaganzas, Fallout is a glowing example of the genre, one which positively radiates quality. Fallout – it's da bomb."

And instead of accusing me of never playing a fallout game you could just check my Steam Games list: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198041663692 granted I never played the first 3 but I have played New Vegas.

[ZombiLoin]

1. If it was just stressful and thrilling then why would we play horror games? Considering the fact that I have actually beaten SCP: Containment breach I can tell you that it is fun to play horror games, especially on a big screen TV with friends.
2. As for the first 3 fallout games let me just give you a qoute from PC games magazine:

"For anyone with an interest in complex, combat-heavy, lovingly produced RPGs, though, Fallout is a must buy. In an age where many are predicting the death of traditional RPGs at the hands of multiplayer extravaganzas, Fallout is a glowing example of the genre, one which positively radiates quality. Fallout – it's da bomb."
And instead of accusing me of never playing a fallout game you could just check my Steam Games list: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198041663692 granted I never played the first 3 but I have played New Vegas.

Wow, it's almost like you're arguing something completely different?! I'm saying that games don't just have to be judged on the merits of being fun- they can be good games based on other things too!

I didn't like Fallout's gameplay because it's clunky and unintuitive. For both the 3d Fallouts and the isometric Fallouts. I wouldn't call the combat fun.

[ResonKinetic]

Wow, it's almost like you're arguing something completely different?! I'm saying that games don't just have to be judged on the merits of being fun- they can be good games based on other things too!

I didn't like Fallout's gameplay because it's clunky and unintuitive. For both the 3d Fallouts and the isometric Fallouts. I wouldn't call the combat fun.

but you enjoyed the experience

fun is synonymous with enjoyment

also, fun is subjective sooooooooooooo

[ZombiLoin]

but you enjoyed the experience

fun is synonymous with enjoyment

also, fun is subjective sooooooooooooo

Here are some better examples.

I enjoyed both Papers, Please and I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream. Are they fun games? Would anybody call them fun games?

[Oasis]

Here are some better examples.

I enjoyed both Papers, Please and I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream. Are they fun games? Would anybody call them fun games?

Papers, Please is fun as hell.