if you're not willing to admit (or don't see) that atrocities/discrimination are/is committed far more often against women, that's a fundamental difference that won't be resolved over a few posts on the BL forums.
That's a damn shame. I was hoping I could open up your eyes but apparently you're blind.
re: the sarcasm thing, i genuinely was not being sarcastic, and wasn't trying to be rude, but my entire argument is structured around the fact that it happens more commonly to women
My argument continues to stand.
re: walmart, if you don't see how that's discriminatory, i have nothing further to say because i'm not going to be able to convince you
Big Business relies on bullstuff practice to cut back in any area possible. They don't discriminate when it comes to blatant cost-cutting; they look for whatever areas will net them the most rebate.
re: rape/other threats in video games, there's a pattern that has to be acknowledged when it happens far more often to women.
Completely disagree. There's no evidence to this, and on the contrary I would again argue that it affects EVERYBODY.
in fact, this entire issue comes down to the fact that there is a pattern of women being overall treated like stuff in generalized comparison to men.
Alternatively, it could be false sensitivity whenever females are treated in the exact same way as males, and instead of going after the root cause people take the easy way and just say it's the fault of Group A against Group B.
from a global/political perspective, though, i hope you recognize that most men are able to dismiss threats because they profit from the overall attitude of western culture.
What the forget are you talking about here?
First of all, it’s clear you don’t know what feminism is. But I’m not going to explain it to you. You can google it. To quote an old friend, ‘I’m not the feminist babysitter.’
One can't successfully debate against something they don't know about. A Feminist believes in the ideology that female rights should be equal to male rights. An ideology that's outdated as the newer ideology of egalitarianism (true equality for all) exists and has existed for a long time.
You’re insulting every woman who was forcibly restrained in a jail cell with a feeding tube down her throat for your right to vote, less than 100 years ago.
You’re degrading every woman who has accessed a rape crCIA centre, which wouldn’t exist without the feminist movement.
You’re undermining every woman who fought to make marital rape a crime (it was legal until 1993).
You’re spitting on the legacy of every woman who fought for women to be allowed to own property (1848). For the abolition of slavery and the rise of the labor union. For the right to divorce. For women to be allowed to have access to birth control (Comstock laws). For middle and upper class women to be allowed to work outside the home (poor women have always worked outside the home). To make domestic violence a crime in the US (It is very much legal in many parts of the world). To make workplace loveual harassment a crime.
Are you mentally loving handicapped?
I said that the modern feminist splinters that exist are outdated because they are only concerned with the rights of one specific group. I don't think that cuts the mustard in this day and age. There's too much bullstuff going on in our world to only concern ourselves with only one group's problems. We need to find the root causes behind the world's current biggest problems as opposed to nitpicking for what are relatively minor issues in developed areas of civilisation.
Are you saying that the "Save the Children" organisation that was recently shut down in Pakistan by the Government deserves less acknowledgement than women?
Are you saying that the crime rate in areas such as Carolina is less important to work on than women issues?
Are you saying that Africa as a whole is less important than women's rights?
What you basically said is the common "you're white so you should feel bad for all the black people you enslaved a hundred years ago" argument. You've confirmed in my mind that you're a raving idiot and that you have no capacity to see the world on a larger scale. You will instead forever be focused on non-issues, and you will drag people down because they're smarter than you are.
Good work, champ.
In short, you know not what you speak of.
Get forgeted.
You reap the rewards of these women’s sacrifices every day of your life.
Go forget yourself.
When you grin with your cutsey sign about how you’re not a feminist, you ignorantly spit on the sacred struggle of the past 200 years. You bite the hand that has fed you freedom, safety, and a voice.”
You are a disgusting, horrible human being, and you have lost any respect I was lending you for your somewhat solid arguments previously.
